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g_munson03
I am a former employee. I have the necessary information to help anyone who has been scammed by either of these companies. I urge you to send me a message. There are many former employees willing to testify to the unethical practices and fraudulent billing which occured on a daily basis-and still is. If you're reading this and you know someone who was ripped off by either of these companies, please, let's bring justice to them.
Chris
QUOTE(g_munson03 @ Jan 21 2006, 10:42 AM)
I am a former employee.  I have the necessary information to help anyone who has been scammed by either of these companies.  I urge you to send me a message.  There are many former employees willing to testify to the unethical practices and fraudulent billing which occured on a daily basis-and still is.  If you're reading this and you know someone who was ripped off by either of these companies, please, let's bring justice to them.
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Hey there. Unfortunately I signed up for the Sunshine Readers scam. I'm interested in hearing what you have to say. I never received any magazines from them and would like to do something about it. Please get back to me.
g_munson03
QUOTE(Chris @ Feb 7 2006, 03:00 PM)
Hey there. Unfortunately I signed up for the Sunshine Readers scam. I'm interested in hearing what you have to say. I never received any magazines from them and would like to do something about it. Please get back to me.
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Chris,

Here is what I suggest:

1. Don't send them anymore money.
2. File a consumer complaint with:
a. your local BBB
b. your local Attorney General's office
c. the Federal Trade Commission (ftc.gov)

3. Keep any and all correspondence received.

4. If the "collection dept" is calling, get a recorder. When they identify themselves, tell them "for your protection and mine, the remainder of our conversation will be recorded". They should hang up.

I am going to the Minnesota Attorney General's office on Monday. I plan to alert as many as I can. They need to be stopped.

Keep me posted, and best of luck to you.

G. Munson
hayquechulo1@aol.com
QUOTE(g_munson03 @ Jan 21 2006, 10:42 AM)
I am a former employee.  I have the necessary information to help anyone who has been scammed by either of these companies.  I urge you to send me a message.  There are many former employees willing to testify to the unethical practices and fraudulent billing which occured on a daily basis-and still is.  If you're reading this and you know someone who was ripped off by either of these companies, please, let's bring justice to them.
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hi im bieng scammed by sunshine readers any info please send to email adress
jbcavman
Yeah I am being crapped on too by them. I went with direct debit and now they are charging me twice a month. I am in the process of changing my checking account to prevent them from getting any more money from me. Any info would help here on my side of the fight. I will do what I can also and keep everyone posted.
hershey
QUOTE(g_munson03 @ Feb 10 2006, 10:55 AM)


Chris,

Here is what I suggest:

1. Don't send them anymore money.
2. File a consumer complaint with:
      a. your local BBB
      b. your local Attorney General's office
      c. the Federal Trade Commission (ftc.gov)

3. Keep any and all correspondence received.

4. If the "collection dept" is calling, get a recorder.  When they identify themselves, tell them "for your protection and mine, the remainder of our conversation will be recorded".  They should hang up.

I am going to the Minnesota Attorney General's office on Monday.  I plan to alert as many as I can.  They need to be stopped. 

Keep me posted, and best of luck to you.

G. Munson
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Guest
QUOTE(g_munson03 @ Jan 21 2006, 10:42 AM)
I am a former employee.  I have the necessary information to help anyone who has been scammed by either of these companies.  I urge you to send me a message.  There are many former employees willing to testify to the unethical practices and fraudulent billing which occured on a daily basis-and still is.  If you're reading this and you know someone who was ripped off by either of these companies, please, let's bring justice to them.
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Guest
QUOTE(g_munson03 @ Jan 21 2006, 10:42 AM)
I am a former employee.  I have the necessary information to help anyone who has been scammed by either of these companies.  I urge you to send me a message.  There are many former employees willing to testify to the unethical practices and fraudulent billing which occured on a daily basis-and still is.  If you're reading this and you know someone who was ripped off by either of these companies, please, let's bring justice to them.
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Bucketman
Im getting build 2 times a month and getting sick of it neer gottin any magazines from them. I canceled my CC and if the call ill tell them i didnt sign anything and wont pay you anything. They take me to a Credit burea i wont pay them either. Plus ill tell them what you listed below

thanks
laurendarcy
QUOTE(g_munson03 @ Jan 21 2006, 10:42 AM)
I am a former employee.  I have the necessary information to help anyone who has been scammed by either of these companies.  I urge you to send me a message.  There are many former employees willing to testify to the unethical practices and fraudulent billing which occured on a daily basis-and still is.  If you're reading this and you know someone who was ripped off by either of these companies, please, let's bring justice to them.
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I am also getting billed 2 times a month from Sunshine and the Home office whatever it is. I have tried to cancel numerous times and have been told I have to pay $1000!!! Ya right....They were completely rude to me on the phone and my credit card company has told me there is not if not info to do anything about it!! Thanks a lot! I was once called and offered a discount and never recieved it...some one from that company called me yesterday but I said I had to go and they keep calling back so I am just ignoring them for now. I dont know what to do! Beware everything. They are terrible. I hope we can all fix this problem....
Staci
I was recently ripped off by them also and they took it directly out of my checking account. The thing is they already had all of my information and I wasn't sure how they got it. I recently called them and the lady was to get back with me but still hasn't. What is the next step for everyone and what will happen. Unfortunately I am a stay at home mother of twin babies and I can't easily go do all of the things that someone had listed. Please contact me. Thank you
g_munson03
QUOTE(Staci @ Mar 3 2006, 04:16 PM)
I was recently ripped off by them also and they took it directly out of my checking account.  The thing is they already had all of my information and I wasn't sure how they got it.  I recently called them and the lady was to get back with me but still hasn't.  What is the next step for everyone and what will happen.  Unfortunately I am a stay at home mother of twin babies and I can't easily go do all of the things that someone had listed. Please contact me. Thank you
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Staci,
Please contact me personally at expressgemini03@hotmail.com, I have a great deal of information for everyone... keep everything! Document your conversations. Do NOT make any payments.

I can help you, and I can't wait!

G. Munson
Han350z
I have gotten scamed as well they say they have me agreeing to all these charges and I can't possibly see how I would agree to a $1300 magazine charge......
Can someone give me some insight as to what to do.

I have changed and blocked my bank account access to them.
They offered me a 672.31 one time fee to get out of it. I declined.

They continously said I was wrong and I was in the wrong.
g_munson03
QUOTE(Han350z @ Mar 14 2006, 11:21 AM)
I have gotten scamed as well they say they have me agreeing to all these charges and I can't possibly see how I would agree to a $1300 magazine charge......
Can someone give me some insight as to what to do.

I have changed and blocked my bank account access to them.
They offered me a 672.31 one time fee to get out of it.  I declined.

They continously said I was wrong and I was in the wrong.
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I can give you the right information, but I need you to contact me at expressgemini03@hotmail.com

slstern
I am the attorney for Sunshine Readers, Inc. I was made aware of this chat thread and feel compelled to respond. Sunshine Readers is a legitimate, law-abiding business which goes out of its way to provide excellent customer service.

On the other hand, the author of the post alleging fraud, Genea Munson, is a disgruntled former employee under investigation for theft of company property by law enforcement authorities in Anoka, Minnesota. Ms. Munson's enthusiasm (and credibility) should be viewed in light of its appearance only after working for years at Sunshine Readers without complaint regarding business practices.

Anyone with a legitimate concern regarding the service they have received or not received from Sunshine Readers should contact me (sstern@mplslaw.com) or Pat Mus, Sunshine Reader's president (sunshinereaders@mcleodusa.net), for personal attention and resolution.

As noted above, Sunshine Readers takes its commitment to Customer Service very seriously. It has thousands of satisfied customers, looks forward to working with its customers to enhance their buying experience, and asks only for the courtesy of the chance to correct any problems before its reputation is sullied in a public forum.

Thank you for your consideration. -- Samuel L. Stern
slstern
QUOTE(Chris @ Feb 7 2006, 03:00 PM)
Hey there. Unfortunately I signed up for the Sunshine Readers scam. I'm interested in hearing what you have to say. I never received any magazines from them and would like to do something about it. Please get back to me.
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I am the attorney for Sunshine Readers, Inc. I was made aware of this chat thread and feel compelled to respond. Sunshine Readers is a legitimate, law-abiding business which goes out of its way to provide excellent customer service.

On the other hand, the author of the post alleging fraud, Genea Munson, is a disgruntled former employee under investigation for theft of company property by law enforcement authorities in Anoka, Minnesota. Ms. Munson's enthusiasm (and credibility) should be viewed in light of its appearance only after working for years at Sunshine Readers without complaint regarding business practices.

Anyone with a legitimate concern regarding the service they have received or not received from Sunshine Readers should contact me (sstern@mplslaw.com) or Pat Mus, Sunshine Reader's president (sunshinereaders@mcleodusa.net), for personal attention and resolution.

As noted above, Sunshine Readers takes its commitment to Customer Service very seriously. It has thousands of satisfied customers, looks forward to working with its customers to enhance their buying experience, and asks only for the courtesy of the chance to correct any problems before its reputation is sullied in a public forum.

Thank you for your consideration. -- Samuel L. Stern
slstern
QUOTE(jbcavman @ Feb 16 2006, 06:05 PM)
Yeah I am being crapped on too by them. I went with direct debit and now they are charging me twice a month. I am in the process of changing my checking account to prevent them from getting any more money from me. Any info would help here on my side of the fight. I will do what I can also and keep everyone posted.
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I am the attorney for Sunshine Readers, Inc. I was made aware of this chat thread and feel compelled to respond. Sunshine Readers is a legitimate, law-abiding business which goes out of its way to provide excellent customer service.

On the other hand, the author of the post alleging fraud, Genea Munson, is a disgruntled former employee under investigation for theft of company property by law enforcement authorities in Anoka, Minnesota. Ms. Munson's enthusiasm (and credibility) should be viewed in light of its appearance only after working for years at Sunshine Readers without complaint regarding business practices.

Anyone with a legitimate concern regarding the service they have received or not received from Sunshine Readers should contact me (sstern@mplslaw.com) or Pat Mus, Sunshine Reader's president (sunshinereaders@mcleodusa.net), for personal attention and resolution.

As noted above, Sunshine Readers takes its commitment to Customer Service very seriously. It has thousands of satisfied customers, looks forward to working with its customers to enhance their buying experience, and asks only for the courtesy of the chance to correct any problems before its reputation is sullied in a public forum.

Thank you for your consideration. -- Samuel L. Stern
slstern
QUOTE(Bucketman @ Mar 1 2006, 12:26 AM)
Im getting build 2 times a month and getting sick of it neer gottin any magazines from them.  I canceled my CC and if the call ill tell them i didnt sign anything and wont pay you anything. They take me to a Credit burea i wont pay them either.  Plus ill tell them what you listed below

thanks
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I am the attorney for Sunshine Readers, Inc. I was made aware of this chat thread and feel compelled to respond. Sunshine Readers is a legitimate, law-abiding business which goes out of its way to provide excellent customer service.

On the other hand, the author of the post alleging fraud, Genea Munson, is a disgruntled former employee under investigation for theft of company property by law enforcement authorities in Anoka, Minnesota. Ms. Munson's enthusiasm (and credibility) should be viewed in light of its appearance only after working for years at Sunshine Readers without complaint regarding business practices.

Anyone with a legitimate concern regarding the service they have received or not received from Sunshine Readers should contact me (sstern@mplslaw.com) or Pat Mus, Sunshine Reader's president (sunshinereaders@mcleodusa.net), for personal attention and resolution.

As noted above, Sunshine Readers takes its commitment to Customer Service very seriously. It has thousands of satisfied customers, looks forward to working with its customers to enhance their buying experience, and asks only for the courtesy of the chance to correct any problems before its reputation is sullied in a public forum.

Thank you for your consideration. -- Samuel L. Stern
slstern
QUOTE(laurendarcy @ Mar 3 2006, 12:20 PM)
I am also getting billed 2 times a month from Sunshine and the Home office whatever it is. I have tried to cancel numerous times and have been told I have to pay $1000!!! Ya right....They were completely rude to me on the phone and my credit card company has told me there is not if not info to do anything about it!! Thanks a lot! I was once called and offered a discount and never recieved it...some one from that company called me yesterday but I said I had to go and they keep calling back so I am just ignoring them for now. I dont know what to do! Beware everything. They are terrible. I hope we can all fix this problem....
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I am the attorney for Sunshine Readers, Inc. I was made aware of this chat thread and feel compelled to respond. Sunshine Readers is a legitimate, law-abiding business which goes out of its way to provide excellent customer service.

On the other hand, the author of the post alleging fraud, Genea Munson, is a disgruntled former employee under investigation for theft of company property by law enforcement authorities in Anoka, Minnesota. Ms. Munson's enthusiasm (and credibility) should be viewed in light of its appearance only after working for years at Sunshine Readers without complaint regarding business practices.

Anyone with a legitimate concern regarding the service they have received or not received from Sunshine Readers should contact me (sstern@mplslaw.com) or Pat Mus, Sunshine Reader's president (sunshinereaders@mcleodusa.net), for personal attention and resolution.

As noted above, Sunshine Readers takes its commitment to Customer Service very seriously. It has thousands of satisfied customers, looks forward to working with its customers to enhance their buying experience, and asks only for the courtesy of the chance to correct any problems before its reputation is sullied in a public forum.

Thank you for your consideration. -- Samuel L. Stern
slstern
QUOTE(Staci @ Mar 3 2006, 04:16 PM)
I was recently ripped off by them also and they took it directly out of my checking account.  The thing is they already had all of my information and I wasn't sure how they got it.  I recently called them and the lady was to get back with me but still hasn't.  What is the next step for everyone and what will happen.  Unfortunately I am a stay at home mother of twin babies and I can't easily go do all of the things that someone had listed. Please contact me. Thank you
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I am the attorney for Sunshine Readers, Inc. I was made aware of this chat thread and feel compelled to respond. Sunshine Readers is a legitimate, law-abiding business which goes out of its way to provide excellent customer service.

On the other hand, the author of the post alleging fraud, Genea Munson, is a disgruntled former employee under investigation for theft of company property by law enforcement authorities in Anoka, Minnesota. Ms. Munson's enthusiasm (and credibility) should be viewed in light of its appearance only after working for years at Sunshine Readers without complaint regarding business practices.

Anyone with a legitimate concern regarding the service they have received or not received from Sunshine Readers should contact me (sstern@mplslaw.com) or Pat Mus, Sunshine Reader's president (sunshinereaders@mcleodusa.net), for personal attention and resolution.

As noted above, Sunshine Readers takes its commitment to Customer Service very seriously. It has thousands of satisfied customers, looks forward to working with its customers to enhance their buying experience, and asks only for the courtesy of the chance to correct any problems before its reputation is sullied in a public forum.

Thank you for your consideration. -- Samuel L. Stern
Guest
QUOTE(slstern @ Mar 21 2006, 07:29 PM)
I am the attorney for Sunshine Readers, Inc. I was made aware of this chat thread and feel compelled to respond. Sunshine Readers is a legitimate, law-abiding business which goes out of its way to provide excellent customer service.

On the other hand, the author of the post alleging fraud, Genea Munson, is a disgruntled former employee under investigation for theft of company property by law enforcement authorities in Anoka, Minnesota. Ms. Munson's enthusiasm (and credibility) should be viewed in light of its appearance only after working for years at Sunshine Readers without complaint regarding business practices.

Anyone with a legitimate concern regarding the service they have received or not received from Sunshine Readers should contact me (sstern@mplslaw.com) or Pat Mus, Sunshine Reader's president (sunshinereaders@mcleodusa.net), for personal attention and resolution.

As noted above, Sunshine Readers takes its commitment to Customer Service very seriously. It has thousands of satisfied customers, looks forward to working with its customers to enhance their buying experience, and asks only for the courtesy of the chance to correct any problems before its reputation is sullied in a public forum.

Thank you for your consideration. -- Samuel L. Stern
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Pllleaaasse. I was treated like crap on the phone, hung up on, and was told some rather rude remarks. How can you possibly aggree that they are legit. Oh wait your an attorney, that explains it. Love how you quoted my story as well.
KOlsen
QUOTE(laurendarcy @ Mar 3 2006, 10:20 AM)
I am also getting billed 2 times a month from Sunshine and the Home office whatever it is. I have tried to cancel numerous times and have been told I have to pay $1000!!! Ya right....They were completely rude to me on the phone and my credit card company has told me there is not if not info to do anything about it!! Thanks a lot! I was once called and offered a discount and never recieved it...some one from that company called me yesterday but I said I had to go and they keep calling back so I am just ignoring them for now. I dont know what to do! Beware everything. They are terrible. I hope we can all fix this problem....
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I also have been getting double billed by this Sunshine Readers as well as the Home Office. When I called I was told by CS at Sunshine that they were not affilliated with any Home Office, but I only received sales calls from Sunshine and to the best of my knowledge placed only one order. As much as I don't have the time to waste over silly disputes, this is costing me enough that I am considering submitting complaints to all listed above as well as anyone else that will give me the time of day.
Bucketman
Well a few ago I was sent a letter from SS readers LOL! they processed 1 payment but couldnt do the other they say I owe them 98.00. I kept the letter and i know more are soon to follow....... This lawyer they have he is getting paid under the table to say crap. Blaming Genea for stealing LOL LOL LOL please dude dont write like a 10 year old.
Guest
I am a woman that was prayed upon by the Sunshine readers services. When I first recieved the call from them, it was February 1, 2006. I remember that day so very well, because that was the day that 8 different magazine companies called. They all stated that they were from my magazine company. I called them yestersday and was rudely talked to, yelled at and told I needed to pay the whole balance of something I haven't even recieved anything for. They are trying to double bill me, and I feel like I was coorst into agreeing to go with them, because they stated that they WERE my magazine company. Which was crap. I called the magazine company I had signed up with and was informed that they hadn't been trying to contact me. I do not know what to do. I am furiously mad and want to do something about this. I was told to call a Gorde today back at Sunshine readers, and was informed when I called back at the designated time that he wasn't available and that all customer service representatives were called into an emergancy meeting. That i needed to call him back. that was so totally unprofessional, let alone ruid that he yells at me and tells me to call him back so he could play a tape back for me that proved that i was not coorst into agreeing to their terms, that he is unavailable when i call back. Yesterday when I called it sounded like a bunch of kids in the background, he had me on speaker phone, and when i asked if he was even in an office, he informed me it was the office parot. What kind of company are they anyway that they use these kind of morally wrong practices. A bunch of cons.
Guest
Sunshine Readers-Company Profile

President and Owner: Patrick V. Mus "fat puss"
The only thing he's really good at is screwing people.
Here is a quote from Pat:
"Ya know... you're going to find out in life, that different people and/or companies that you may think will get in trouble for things that they do... but they never do."

I hope he still believes that.

Vice President: Christopher Robert Patterson a.k.a Chris Marx
Favorite Quote: "Sorry about the up yours."
You can find his bio on mncriminals.com
He is the worst of scum. That's right, Criminal Sexual Conduct, 3rd Degree.
Now I know where the quote comes from, but I know he's not sorry.
5/4/79

Cheif Administrator: Rebecca Darlington a.k.a Ms. Sally
Believe me when I tell you that she is in NO WAY naive to what is going on there.

Never have I encountered such self-serving, arrogant individuals that lack human decency.

As for Sam Stern, more like Howard Stern, you're a joke
SUNSHINEGOES2JAIL
I AM NOT A FORMER EMPLOYEE NOR DO I HAVE AN ACCOUNT WITH THESE CROOKS, HOWEVER, I DO HAVE AN INSIDE SCOOP ON PAT MUS, BOTH JR & SR, SAM STERN AND CHRIS PATTERSON.

FIRST OFF, SAM STERN CAN NOT BE FOUND WHEN I SEARCHED THRU THE MN BAR ASS. HE IS ALSO A PARTNER IN PAT MUS SR'S DRUG TREATMENT CENTER, WHICH HAS BEEN INVESTIGATED FOR, AND FOUND GUILTY, OF BILLING THE COUNTY FOR PATIENTS THAT NEVER RECEIVED TREATMENT.

PAT SR CHEATED ON HIS WIFE WITH A PATIENT OF HIS TREATMENT CENTER AND HAS BEEN SCAMMING PEOPLE FOR AS LONG AS I'VE KNOWN HIM. HE WEARS A CROSS AND FOOLS PEOPLE BY USING A RELIGIOUS APPROACH!! WHICH THE LADY THAT HE CHEATED WITH HAS/HAD A TERMINAL IN WHICH HE WAS ABLE TO GET DONATIONS TO HIS "NON-PROFIT" ORGANIZATION FROM HER IN EXCESS OF 200K. DURING THIS PERIOD HE PAID FOR HIS DAUGHTERS WEDDING AND PUT A 25K POOL IN HIS OTHER DAUGHTERS HOUSE.

PAT JR IS JUST A NAIVE, WANT TO BE. HIS DAD AND CHRIS PATTERSON HAS PUT HIM DOWN THE WRONG PATH. NOW HIS GREED HAS TAKEN OVER. WHICH HAS RESULTED IN HIM SCAMMING 100'S OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FROM THESE CUSTOMERS.

CHRIS PATTERSON JUST MAKES ME SICK!! I THINK HE WATCHED TOO MUCH BOILER ROOM AND FAILED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE ENDING. HE TREATS CUSTOMERS LIKE HE'S UNTOUCHABLE. I'VE HEARD HIM YELL AT THEM, SWEAR AND CHARGE 100'S OF DOLLARS TO THESE POOR PEOPLE TO CANCEL THEIR ACCOUNT.

IN CLOSING, EVERYONE NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE NOT ALONE AND UNLESS THEY CONTACT THE PROPER AUTHORITY THESE PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO BREAK THE LAWS AND GIVE THE MAGAZINE INDUSTRY A BAD NAME. THESE PEOPLE WILL END UP GOING TO JAIL FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE TO THESE CONSUMERS IF THEY PULL TOGETHER. IF THE CUSTOMERS DON'T REMEMBER PLACING AN ORDER WITH BOTH OF THESE COMPANIES ITS PROBABLY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T.

DO NOT PAY ANYMORE MONEY TO EITHER OF THESE COMPANIES. THEY CAN NOT MAKE YOU PAY OR HURT YOUR CREDIT.

DO NOT CALL SUNSHINE READERS OR SAM STERN. FOR THEY WILL DO NOTHING BENEFICIAL FOR YOU

DO CONTACT THE MN ATTORNEY GENERAL TO HELP THEM ASSIST IN THEIR INVESTIGATION AGAINST THESE CROOKS. HERE'S THE LINK AND PHONE NUMBER FOR THEM:
http://www.ag.state.mn.us/
800-657-3787

IF YOU NEED ANY HELP YOU CAN ALSO CONTACT ME AT:

SUNSHINEGOES2JAIL@HOTMAIL.COM
SUNSHINEGOES2JAIL
QUOTE(SUNSHINEGOES2JAIL @ Apr 12 2006, 08:39 AM)
I AM NOT A FORMER EMPLOYEE NOR DO I HAVE AN ACCOUNT WITH THESE CROOKS, HOWEVER, I DO HAVE AN INSIDE SCOOP ON PAT MUS, BOTH JR & SR, SAM STERN AND CHRIS PATTERSON.

FIRST OFF, SAM STERN CAN NOT BE FOUND WHEN I SEARCHED THRU THE MN BAR ASS.  HE IS ALSO A PARTNER IN PAT MUS SR'S DRUG TREATMENT CENTER, WHICH HAS BEEN INVESTIGATED FOR, AND FOUND GUILTY, OF BILLING THE COUNTY FOR PATIENTS THAT NEVER RECEIVED TREATMENT. 

PAT SR CHEATED ON HIS WIFE WITH A PATIENT OF HIS TREATMENT CENTER AND HAS BEEN SCAMMING PEOPLE FOR AS LONG AS I'VE KNOWN HIM. HE WEARS A CROSS AND FOOLS PEOPLE BY USING A RELIGIOUS APPROACH!!  WHICH THE LADY THAT HE CHEATED WITH HAS/HAD A TERMINAL IN WHICH HE WAS ABLE TO GET DONATIONS TO HIS "NON-PROFIT" ORGANIZATION FROM HER IN EXCESS OF 200K.  DURING THIS PERIOD HE PAID FOR HIS DAUGHTERS WEDDING AND PUT A 25K POOL IN HIS OTHER DAUGHTERS HOUSE. 

PAT JR IS JUST A NAIVE, WANT TO BE.  HIS DAD AND CHRIS PATTERSON HAS PUT HIM DOWN THE WRONG PATH.  NOW HIS GREED HAS TAKEN OVER.  WHICH HAS RESULTED IN HIM SCAMMING 100'S OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FROM THESE CUSTOMERS.

CHRIS PATTERSON JUST MAKES ME SICK!!  I THINK HE WATCHED TOO MUCH BOILER ROOM AND FAILED TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE ENDING.  HE TREATS CUSTOMERS LIKE HE'S UNTOUCHABLE. I'VE HEARD HIM YELL AT THEM, SWEAR AND CHARGE 100'S OF DOLLARS TO THESE POOR PEOPLE TO CANCEL THEIR ACCOUNT.

IN CLOSING, EVERYONE NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE NOT ALONE AND UNLESS THEY CONTACT THE PROPER AUTHORITY THESE PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO BREAK THE LAWS AND GIVE THE MAGAZINE INDUSTRY A BAD NAME.  THESE PEOPLE WILL END UP GOING TO JAIL FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE TO THESE CONSUMERS IF THEY PULL TOGETHER.  IF THE CUSTOMERS DON'T REMEMBER PLACING AN ORDER WITH BOTH OF THESE COMPANIES ITS PROBABLY BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T. 

DO NOT PAY ANYMORE MONEY TO EITHER OF THESE COMPANIES. THEY CAN NOT MAKE YOU PAY OR HURT YOUR CREDIT.

DO NOT CALL SUNSHINE READERS OR SAM STERN.  FOR THEY WILL DO NOTHING BENEFICIAL FOR YOU

DO CONTACT THE MN ATTORNEY GENERAL TO HELP THEM ASSIST IN THEIR INVESTIGATION AGAINST THESE CROOKS.  HERE'S THE LINK AND PHONE NUMBER FOR THEM:
http://www.ag.state.mn.us/
800-657-3787

IF YOU NEED ANY HELP YOU CAN ALSO CONTACT ME AT:

SUNSHINEGOES2JAIL@HOTMAIL.COM
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HERE'S THE LINK THAT DIRECTLY GETS YOU TO THE COMPLAINT FORM

http://www.ag.state.mn.us/consumer/complaint.html
guest
QUOTE(SUNSHINEGOES2JAIL @ Apr 13 2006, 08:22 AM)
HERE'S THE LINK THAT DIRECTLY GETS YOU TO THE COMPLAINT FORM

http://www.ag.state.mn.us/consumer/complaint.html
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I also am not a former employee or customer of sunshine, but I do know that even among others in the telemarketing industry Pat is thought of as the worst of the worst along the lines of ethical practices. He has burned bridges with, and currently owes money to every other magazine telemarketing firm that he has ever done business with that I am aware of, which is a fair number. Some of these firms have helped sunshine stay on its feet financially over the years, and even with their current financial success (irregardless of the unethical business practices used to attain this success), repayment of these debts seems to be far from something sunshine is considering. In Pat Snr's (who helped Jnr obtain part of the financial aid) words in reference to his son's debts, "it (not being paid money owed by business partners) is part of the reality of business."
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QUOTE(slstern @ Mar 21 2006, 07:29 PM)
I am the attorney for Sunshine Readers, Inc. I was made aware of this chat thread and feel compelled to respond. Sunshine Readers is a legitimate, law-abiding business which goes out of its way to provide excellent customer service.

On the other hand, the author of the post alleging fraud, Genea Munson, is a disgruntled former employee under investigation for theft of company property by law enforcement authorities in Anoka, Minnesota. Ms. Munson's enthusiasm (and credibility) should be viewed in light of its appearance only after working for years at Sunshine Readers without complaint regarding business practices.

Anyone with a legitimate concern regarding the service they have received or not received from Sunshine Readers should contact me (sstern@mplslaw.com) or Pat Mus, Sunshine Reader's president (sunshinereaders@mcleodusa.net), for personal attention and resolution.

As noted above, Sunshine Readers takes its commitment to Customer Service very seriously. It has thousands of satisfied customers, looks forward to working with its customers to enhance their buying experience, and asks only for the courtesy of the chance to correct any problems before its reputation is sullied in a public forum.

Thank you for your consideration. -- Samuel L. Stern
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HERE'S THE SEARCH RESULTS FOR ALL ATTORNEYS WITH THE LAST NAME STERN

http://mail.statebar.gen.mn.us/search/searchresult.asp
?????
QUOTE(??? @ Apr 26 2006, 07:05 AM)
HERE'S THE SEARCH RESULTS FOR ALL ATTORNEYS WITH THE LAST NAME STERN

http://mail.statebar.gen.mn.us/search/searchresult.asp
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NO SAMUEL L STERN???

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legal eagle
I would like for the man who stated he was a lawyer to come back on here and give his attorney ID #. As it is criminal for a person to misrepresent themselves as a attorney for a business and not be.
We are working up a case in Pennsylvania against this company, looking for any information about claims against these people..
When We spoke to someone at this company and asked them for the name of the company lawyer so we could serve process on them,they refused to answer.
People this could be come a class action , more information will be posted here.



Guest
It does seem suspicious.... Pat SNR's treatments center is located on 42nd avenue with the same zip code. I wouldn't be surprised if this address is for the drug treatment center.

Stern & Anderson
5810 42nd Avenue N.
Minneapolis, MN 55422
Guest
QUOTE(Guest @ May 1 2006, 08:22 AM)
It does seem suspicious....  Pat SNR's treatments center is located on 42nd avenue with the same zip code.  I wouldn't be surprised if this address is for the drug treatment center.

Stern & Anderson
5810 42nd Avenue N.
Minneapolis, MN 55422
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It is!! Check out the address at the link below....

http://www.wmrs.biz/
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QUOTE(Guest @ May 1 2006, 08:28 AM)
It is!!  Check out the address at the link below....

http://www.wmrs.biz/
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west metro recovery services? what kind of lawyer operates out of a drug rehab center?!? are they in on this scam as well? blink.gif
Guest
QUOTE(??? @ May 2 2006, 07:20 AM)
west metro recovery services?  what kind of lawyer operates out of a drug rehab center?!?  are they in on this scam as well?  blink.gif
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mad.gif OF COURSE THEY ARE...THEY'RE ALL IN BED TOGETHER DOING THE SAMETHINGS, JUST TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE....THIS SAM STERN, I BELIEVE, IS A FLOPPED ATTORNEY THAT IS STILL PRESENTING HIMSELF AS AN ATTORNEY AND YES HE DOES WORK FOR WEST METRO RECOVERY AND HAS NO OTHER ADDRESS FOR A LAW FIRM CUZ HE IS NOT AN ATTORNEY
iamfromSlidell
they also scamed me but i canceled my card and getting the bank not to pay them any money!!!
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QUOTE(iamfromSlidell @ May 5 2006, 09:49 PM)
they also scamed me but i canceled my card and getting the bank not to pay them any money!!!
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even if you've stopped your bank from paying them you still need to contact your attorney general along with the minn atty gen at the link provided above because the more people there are the sooner they will stop scamming people
Chuck
I am concerned, my daughter just started working here in Anoka MN. Can you provide me with additional info?
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QUOTE(Chuck @ May 8 2006, 04:54 PM)
I am concerned, my daughter just started working here in Anoka MN. Can you provide me with additional info?
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JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION CHUCK.......SHE IS BETTER OFF WORKING ANYWHERE ELSE....THEIR COMPANY MISSION IS....."FUCK OVER WHOEVER WE CAN, HOWEVER WE HAVE TOO, SO THAT WE MAKE AS MUCH MONEY AS WE CAN"... ITS SO CLEAR THAT ITS WRITTEN ALL OVER THE OFFICE BY MANAGEMENT!
Guest
QUOTE(g_munson03 @ Jan 21 2006, 10:42 AM)
I am a former employee.  I have the necessary information to help anyone who has been scammed by either of these companies.  I urge you to send me a message.  There are many former employees willing to testify to the unethical practices and fraudulent billing which occured on a daily basis-and still is.  If you're reading this and you know someone who was ripped off by either of these companies, please, let's bring justice to them.
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How do I cancel my subscribtions and and not recieve any magazines so i don't get charged and get my money back.
Guest
QUOTE(Guest @ May 12 2006, 08:02 PM)
How do I cancel my subscribtions and and not recieve any magazines so i don't get charged and get my money back.
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I too would like to cancel & get my money back. I wasn't aware of their scam until after reading this thread. I only ordered a few days ago, and would like to cancel before i recieve and magazines. Please if anyone has their customer service number, please post it. Thanks.
jbcavman
QUOTE(Guest @ May 12 2006, 11:53 PM)
I too would like to cancel & get my money back. I wasn't aware of their scam until after reading this thread. I only ordered a few days ago, and would like to cancel before i recieve and magazines. Please if anyone has their customer service number, please post it. Thanks.
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All they will do is tell that the money has been sent to the printers and say you owe them 1000 or so dollars. all I know is that this thing is blowing up for them. Also I hope that the admins of this site have blocked the att. IP address.
Guest
QUOTE(Guest @ May 12 2006, 08:02 PM)
How do I cancel my subscribtions and and not recieve any magazines so i don't get charged and get my money back.
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contact the atty general at the above link
k larson
Hi. my first post.
Okay, here's my story w/'Scumshine' Readers-Home Office Maggotzine. At first I was nice but dumb, or maybe I was just in a rush to get to whatever it was that I was doing, and I gave them my checking acct. number and routing number for my bank. Of course, big mistake, duh.
So anyhoo I closed my bank account, got a new number, and decided not to give those numbers to them again. However, we (the magazine company and myself) made an agreement for me to pay $14.95 a month by personal check--no auto-withdrawal--by the first of each month. That sounded fair, and it was going fine, but sometimes my payments didn't reach them in time and I'd get these letters.
Then I had to look up something about them, like their number maybe, I don't remember, and voila! I found the link to this board and I thought, hmmmm..... dry.gif
So last Friday May 19 this guy named Scott left a message on my machine, which I recorded: "In regards to File Number ******. Your account's been passed on to a legal referall to Bud Anderson's legal department collection firm in regards to your account past due over thirty days with Sunshine, I'm sorry, oh, let's see here, Home Office Magazine. If you could give us a call back at *-***-***-**** we can get this file back out of collection so we can uh--keep you from referring any collection costs or late fees. Thank you very much, have a wonderful day."
Wednesday, May 24: Received another call, answered this one myself, did not record it; guess I wasn't expecting him, same guy as above: Inquired about my checking account number ********, but I told him it had been cancelled; He asked me what my new one was; I simply told him that I'd rather not give that information over the phone; he asked 'How are you going to make the payment arrangements then?' or something like that. I shrugged and said 'I don't know' and hung up.
Couple minutes later, phone rings again. I decide to get the tape recorder ready. Sure enough, it's my friend Scott calling back. rolleyes.gif What does he say this time?
"Not a too bright of an idea to hang up on the person who has control of sending your account to a collection law firm or not but that's your choice. Um--just calling to let you know that your account is past due and because your old account was closed and you didn't forward your new billing information to us after we sent you numerous letters and phone calls notifying that your acctount's past due, as of Friday we will be sending it to our legal department for further processing. If you want to call us back and get this straightened out the number is *-***-***-****. Otherwise good luck to ya."
Then I got a real bizzare message: Just someone making weird cat-parrot noises and then bllllllllllllllluuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrbbbbbbbbbbb. I *69ed the number but it was unidentifiable; maybe his kid playing on the line?
Screwed Over
QUOTE(k larson @ May 28 2006, 07:11 PM)
Hi. my first post.
Okay, here's my story w/'Scumshine' Readers-Home Office Maggotzine.  At first I was nice but dumb, or maybe I was just in a rush to get to whatever it was that I was doing, and I gave them my checking acct. number and routing number for my bank.  Of course, big mistake, duh. 
So anyhoo I closed my bank account, got a new number, and decided not to give those numbers to them again.  However, we (the magazine company and myself) made an agreement for me to pay $14.95 a month by personal check--no auto-withdrawal--by the first of each month.  That sounded fair, and it was going fine, but sometimes my payments didn't reach them in time and I'd get these letters.
Then I had to look up something about them, like their number maybe, I don't remember, and voila!  I found the link to this board and I thought, hmmmm..... dry.gif
So last Friday May 19 this guy named Scott left a message on my machine, which I recorded:  "In regards to File Number ******.  Your account's been passed on to a legal referall to Bud Anderson's legal department collection firm in regards to your account past due over thirty days with Sunshine, I'm sorry, oh, let's see here, Home Office Magazine.  If you could give us a call back at *-***-***-**** we can get this file back out of collection so we can uh--keep you from referring any collection costs or late fees. Thank you very much, have a wonderful day."
Wednesday, May 24:  Received another call, answered this one myself, did not record it; guess I wasn't expecting him, same guy as above:  Inquired about my checking account number ********, but I told him it had been cancelled; He asked me what my new one was; I simply told him that I'd rather not give that information over the phone; he asked 'How are you going to make the payment arrangements then?' or something like that.  I shrugged and said 'I don't know' and hung up. 
Couple minutes later, phone rings again.  I decide to get the tape recorder ready.  Sure enough, it's my friend Scott calling back. rolleyes.gif What does he say this time?
"Not a too bright of an idea to hang up on the person who has control of sending your account to a collection law firm or not but that's your choice.  Um--just calling to let you know that your account is past due and because your old account was closed and you didn't forward your new billing information to us after we sent you numerous letters and phone calls notifying that your acctount's past due, as of Friday we will be sending it to our legal department for further processing.  If you want to call us back and get this straightened out the number is *-***-***-****.  Otherwise good luck to ya."
Then I got a real bizzare message:  Just someone making weird cat-parrot noises and then bllllllllllllllluuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrbbbbbbbbbbb.  I *69ed the number but it was unidentifiable; maybe his kid playing on the line?
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Hey, I also was scammed by Sunshine Readers, they called me informed me that they were my magazine company, (already had all my information except the routing number and my account number) I stupidly gave them my information and they two months later I started receiving magazines. I informed that I didnot want those magazines and then they started sending me the specific ones I ordered. So i was fooled into thinking they were legit. Later one day in the middle of school ( I am a teacher) I get a call and it says UNAVAILABLE ID, so I answer because I know when my husband's job calls it also says unavailable id. this lady informs me that she is going give me a discount and all i needed to do is respond yes to the questions and make sure she had the right information. I asked many many many many many questions to make sure that this lady was referring to my present account she answered yes to all the questions and explained that she was referring to the account I already had. We established that she had the right information and I hurriedly TRIED to get her off the phone.
A month later I noticed that my account was charged a reduced amount , two weeks later the original charge was also charged to the account. I called to ask about this and a guy named Mike told me that I had agreed to pay for a new account. I spent about an hour or more arguing with this guy about the lies he told me, he even informed me that I had made a second order, he told me that there was a recording I asked to listen to the recording and he told me I would have to call back. I told him I wanted to cancel the 2nd account he told me that I would need to payoff bought to cancel one. When I asked how much it was he told me about $4000. I asked him why it was that the last lady I spoke to told me it would cost about $600-$700 to close off the account. He informed me that he recordings of all my conversations, unfortunately I would have to call back to hear them and they were not the whole conversations, and of course the information that I mentioned above was not recorded on any of them. I even asked to speak to the manager or supervisor and he told me that he was the manager, we continued to battle and I informed him that since the first person I spoke to when I had one account told me it was between $600 and $700 to cancel that was always I was willing to pay to end the payments but still receive my magazines.
he told me that I would have to pay about $1000 because he was doing me a favor. I told him that I was willing to pay $650 because that was how much the lady before told me. He told me he had to speak to supervisor (REMEMBER BEFORE HE SAID HE WAS THE SUPERVISOR) i let him know that I had caught him in a lie. he spoke to his supervisor told me his supervisor said $1000 and no less. I refused to budge and eventually he accepted $650. with the understanding that I will continue to get magazines from both accounts (he probably did not record that) so now I have got two OK magazines (what am I going to do with that) and when I called he said that I should get my other four magazines starting around June 10th, I am planning to call tomorrow and ask why am I not still getting my first order. I wish I had read this thread before I went through all this drama because they would have been sorry that they crossed my path. I writing this because I just don't want anyone else to have these issues.
Guest
QUOTE(Screwed Over @ Jun 1 2006, 03:54 PM)
Hey, I also was scammed by Sunshine Readers, they called me informed me that they were my magazine company, (already had all my information except the routing number and my account number) I stupidly gave them my information and they two months later I started receiving magazines. I informed that I didnot want those magazines and then they started sending me the specific ones I ordered. So i was fooled into thinking they were legit.  Later one day in the middle of school ( I am a teacher) I get a call and it says UNAVAILABLE ID, so I answer because I know when my husband's job calls it also says unavailable id. this lady informs me that she is going give me a discount and all i needed to do is respond yes to the questions and make sure she had the right information.  I asked many many many many many questions to make sure that this lady was referring to my present account she answered yes to all the questions and explained that she was referring to the account I already had. We established that she had the right information and I hurriedly TRIED to get her off the phone.
A month later I noticed that my account was charged a reduced amount , two weeks later the original charge was also charged to the account. I called to ask about this and a guy named Mike told me that I had agreed to pay for a new account. I spent about an hour or more arguing with this guy about the lies he told me, he even informed me that I had made a second order, he told me that there was a recording I asked to listen to the recording and he told me I would have to call back. I told him I wanted to cancel the 2nd account he told me that I would need to payoff bought to cancel one. When I asked how much it was he told me about $4000. I asked him why it was that the last lady I spoke to told me it would cost about $600-$700 to close off the account. He informed me that he recordings of all my conversations, unfortunately I would have to call back to hear them and they were not the whole conversations, and of course the information that I mentioned above was not recorded on any of them. I even asked to speak to the manager or supervisor and he told me that he was the manager, we continued to battle and I informed him that since the first person I spoke to when I had one account told me it was between $600 and $700 to cancel that was always I was willing to pay to end the payments but still receive my magazines.
he told me that I would have to pay about $1000 because he was doing me a favor. I told him that I was willing to pay $650 because that was how much the lady before told me. He told me he had to speak to supervisor (REMEMBER BEFORE HE SAID HE WAS THE SUPERVISOR) i let him know that I had caught him in a lie. he spoke to his supervisor told me his supervisor said $1000 and no less. I refused to budge and eventually he accepted $650. with the understanding that I will continue to get magazines from both accounts (he probably did not record that) so now I have got two OK magazines (what am I going to do with that) and when I called he said that I should get my other four magazines starting around June 10th, I am planning to call tomorrow and ask why am I not still getting my first order. I wish I had read this thread before I went through all this drama because they would have been sorry that they crossed my path. I writing this because I just don't want anyone else to have these issues.
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CONTACT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IN MINNESOTA AND YOUR STATE...ITS NOT TOO LATE AND YOU'RE DEFINATELY NOT THE FIRST BUT YOU'LL GET YOUR MONEY BACK!
WAS THAT CHARGE PAID ON YOUR CREDIT CARD? DISPUTE IT WITH YOUR CREDIT CARD COMPANY!

CHECKING ACCOUNT,: CONTACT YOUR BANK IMMEDIATELY!

JUST SOME FYI: THEY ARE SELLING A CANCEL AT WILL SERVICE WHETHER THEY TELL YOU THAT OR NOT. DO NOT LET THEM SCAM YOU! THEY GIVE GOOD PEOPLE A BAD RAP! EVERYTHING THEY HAVE TOLD YOU IS A LIE!
Guest
Consent Suspensions From Practice Before the Internal Revenue Service
Under Title 31, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 10, an attorney, certified public accountant, enrolled agent, or enrolled actuary, in order to avoid institution or conclusion of a proceeding for his or her disbarment or suspension from practice before the Internal Revenue Service, may offer his or her consent to suspension from such practice. The Director, Office of Professional Responsibility, in his discretion, may suspend an attorney, certified public accountant, enrolled agent or enrolled actuary in accordance with the consent offered.

The following individuals have been placed under consent suspension from practice before the Internal Revenue Service:

Name: Stern, Samuel L.
Location: Robbinsdale, MN
Designation: Attorney
Date: Indefinite from November 19, 2003

http://www.irs.gov/irb/2004-03_IRB/ar14.html

Apparently this guy is familiar with unethical practices.
slara
I am so relieved to see that others have had this maddening "drama" (as one person put it) with Sunshine Readers/Home Office Magazines. I consider myself a very well educated, sensible person, and yet I have fallen to these either unethical or inept (or both) hands. I feel too angry and embarrassed to even discuss the details, but suffice it so say I have been engaging in nasty conversations with these companies for months. Notably, no one at the company can ever offer an address to write. I have changed my credit card and my banking account in an attempt to stop handing over money to these people. As a result of this experience, I will never conduct business over the telephone again nor will I very often use a credit card. I plan to undertake many of the suggestions given in this thread, and I advise anyone not to accept calls from any telemarketing companies. I would love to hear from anyone in Virginia who has experienced problems with these companies.
cmd0130
i am also being scammed by this company like everyone else here is. Does anyone know the latest update about what is going to happen to them, if anything is? They have been billing me twice a month for the past two months. They usually take the money out of my bank acct on the 12th and 14th but havent this month. I dont get it..? are they just late or what?
ecu525
anyone know when the atty general is going to act on these complaints?
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