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ozwizardks
QUOTE(g_munson03 @ Jan 21 2006, 01:42 PM)
I am a former employee.  I have the necessary information to help anyone who has been scammed by either of these companies.  I urge you to send me a message.  There are many former employees willing to testify to the unethical practices and fraudulent billing which occured on a daily basis-and still is.  If you're reading this and you know someone who was ripped off by either of these companies, please, let's bring justice to them.
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i have just been taken by these people due to a past and fired babysitter i had who supposedly used my credit card info with these people. they are trying to rack up a $830.00 bill for magazines that i don't even read. they said they have me on tape, but i have never talked to these people and have now idea how to fight them. i didn't order all this crap and would like to know how to get them off my back. any help out there?
JLC1988
I have read all our your messages about sunshine readers and would like to know more information about this. Tomorrow I am actually starting my new job working at Sunshine Readers and would like to know more about what they are supposably up to?
laurendarcy
Ok everyone....I fixed my problem and you can too. I found a friend here in my home town that is a lawyer. All he did was send them a letter telling them that yes , they are a big fat scam and I would like my account to be closed and the money I owe to be dismissed. Well the lawyer on their end is obviously completely lame....they sent over a letter for me to cancel my account immediately. No questions asked...and now I'm completely done with them. Seriously just find a lawyer who will help you. All it took him was ONE email and it was done like that. They cant take you to collections because they are doing things that are totally illegal. I never got a call from a collection agency or anything.


Oh and....whoever it was from that company (Mike I think) who told me I would never win. Well I told you I would!! Didnt I? And I SOOO did. I rule!!! smile.gif
kelsey_id
i was also scammed back in may they called and wouldnt take no for an answer so i went along with it, stupid me wish i had known all this, so someone calls again like a week later and asked if i wanted to sign up and i said i had already done so and i wanted to cancel, as soon as they heard cancel they hung up on me, i just now called the 866-227-5088 and the guy told me it was a binding contract and that i couldnt cancel, is that possible binding contract from a recording that i wasnt even aware of? and then i called him pathetic and he said i was pathetic, great customer service! can someone inform me how to make all this stop, i cant afford for them to take money out that i shouldnt even owe
kelsey_id
QUOTE(g_munson03 @ Jan 21 2006, 11:42 AM)
I am a former employee.  I have the necessary information to help anyone who has been scammed by either of these companies.  I urge you to send me a message.  There are many former employees willing to testify to the unethical practices and fraudulent billing which occured on a daily basis-and still is.  If you're reading this and you know someone who was ripped off by either of these companies, please, let's bring justice to them.
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please help me
ozwizardks
ok..now check out the MN Better Business Bureau:
http://www.mnd.bbb.org/commonreport.html?bid=96000992
log on and file a complaint against these people and see if we can't get some help in stopping these frauds. their web site www.sunshinereaders.com is bogus. they list a customer service number that does not even belong to their company, their browse button for magazine search is bogus...for looks only and their search button is also bogus. web site is just a sham. this is legal???
ecu525
QUOTE(ozwizardks @ Aug 8 2006, 03:13 PM)
ok..now check out the MN Better Business Bureau:
http://www.mnd.bbb.org/commonreport.html?bid=96000992
log on and file a complaint against these people and see if we can't get some help in stopping these frauds.  their web site www.sunshinereaders.com is bogus.  they list a customer service number that does not even belong to their company, their browse button for magazine search is bogus...for looks only and their search button is also bogus.  web site is just a sham.  this is legal???
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i really dont think that they can help that much if you scroll down it looks like the bbb let them get away with there bs
dbrekjon
QUOTE(g_munson03 @ Jan 21 2006, 10:42 AM)
I am a former employee.  I have the necessary information to help anyone who has been scammed by either of these companies.  I urge you to send me a message.  There are many former employees willing to testify to the unethical practices and fraudulent billing which occured on a daily basis-and still is.  If you're reading this and you know someone who was ripped off by either of these companies, please, let's bring justice to them.
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My 19 year old son, soon to be heading to Iraq was scammed by this company which somehow very quickly came up with "proof" that his one word responses to a lengthy telemarking saleswoman verified that he entered into a contract with them.

My son is a soldier, and before he left in the spring, ordered parts for his car using his cell phone. He believes somehow a conversation in which he was ordering car parts was edited to meet the fraudulent scheme of Sunshine Readers.

They have sent no official paperwork in the mail, but have been taking almost $30.00 each month out of his bank account for the past 4-5 months. Five magazines have been coming in the mail to our home address (with my son's name misspelled incidently), and we have been sending them all back with a note "Return to Sender. I did not order these, and do not want these. Stop immediately."

My son has been at a military base training, and just two days ago got a phone call on his cell phone from Sunshine Readers. The person asked him if he wanted the five magazines which have been coming to our home address. My son said, "So you're the people - I've been trying to get in contact with you. NO I DON'T WANT THEM AND NEVER DID. STOP IMMEDIATELY." The man then told him quite gleefully that his Mastercard bank account is being charged each month. When my son asked to speak to his supervisor, the man hung up on him.

I tried to talk with this company today, as well, and the man on the other end was rude and arrogant, and threatened to hang up on me. He then played the "tape" for me as well.

My son has enough to worry about without worrying about this fraudulent company exploiting him. My son is going to war - wouldn't and didn't start up a five year magazine subscription at a overall cost of $1800. Who in their right mind would? These people are unethical scam artists.
dbrekjon
QUOTE(Screwed Over @ Jun 1 2006, 03:54 PM)
Hey, I also was scammed by Sunshine Readers, they called me informed me that they were my magazine company, (already had all my information except the routing number and my account number) I stupidly gave them my information and they two months later I started receiving magazines. I informed that I didnot want those magazines and then they started sending me the specific ones I ordered. So i was fooled into thinking they were legit.  Later one day in the middle of school ( I am a teacher) I get a call and it says UNAVAILABLE ID, so I answer because I know when my husband's job calls it also says unavailable id. this lady informs me that she is going give me a discount and all i needed to do is respond yes to the questions and make sure she had the right information.  I asked many many many many many questions to make sure that this lady was referring to my present account she answered yes to all the questions and explained that she was referring to the account I already had. We established that she had the right information and I hurriedly TRIED to get her off the phone.
A month later I noticed that my account was charged a reduced amount , two weeks later the original charge was also charged to the account. I called to ask about this and a guy named Mike told me that I had agreed to pay for a new account. I spent about an hour or more arguing with this guy about the lies he told me, he even informed me that I had made a second order, he told me that there was a recording I asked to listen to the recording and he told me I would have to call back. I told him I wanted to cancel the 2nd account he told me that I would need to payoff bought to cancel one. When I asked how much it was he told me about $4000. I asked him why it was that the last lady I spoke to told me it would cost about $600-$700 to close off the account. He informed me that he recordings of all my conversations, unfortunately I would have to call back to hear them and they were not the whole conversations, and of course the information that I mentioned above was not recorded on any of them. I even asked to speak to the manager or supervisor and he told me that he was the manager, we continued to battle and I informed him that since the first person I spoke to when I had one account told me it was between $600 and $700 to cancel that was always I was willing to pay to end the payments but still receive my magazines.
he told me that I would have to pay about $1000 because he was doing me a favor. I told him that I was willing to pay $650 because that was how much the lady before told me. He told me he had to speak to supervisor (REMEMBER BEFORE HE SAID HE WAS THE SUPERVISOR) i let him know that I had caught him in a lie. he spoke to his supervisor told me his supervisor said $1000 and no less. I refused to budge and eventually he accepted $650. with the understanding that I will continue to get magazines from both accounts (he probably did not record that) so now I have got two OK magazines (what am I going to do with that) and when I called he said that I should get my other four magazines starting around June 10th, I am planning to call tomorrow and ask why am I not still getting my first order. I wish I had read this thread before I went through all this drama because they would have been sorry that they crossed my path. I writing this because I just don't want anyone else to have these issues.
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Write the Attorney General and report them to the Better Business Bureau, too.
theBureau
Hey dumbasses! I see why you idiots post here. Bunch of crying and whining it sounds like to me. I didn't order this I didn't order that. BS you know you did. Also to the idiot who wrote that Sam Stern isn't registered with MSBA. Did you bother to read the disclaimer?

If the results do not include someone whom you are positive they should, it may be because that person is

-not a member of the MSBA, or
-has asked that their information not be listed in the MSBA's print directory.

Members may choose whether to have their home address or business address used in the directory; this database uses the business address when possible. It could also be that you have provided more information than is needed, but our database differs from what you entered in some respect. The fewer fields you can use to find the right person, the better.

Guess not dumbass. Get a life people. If you would spend as much time working to pay your bills as you did trying to get out of them, you wouldn't be here.

BTW- If you are dumb enough to give out the information they are asking for in this day in age, over the phone, you aren't even responsible enough to have a bank account or credit card.

Get some skills dumbfucks.
ozwizardks
QUOTE(theBureau @ Aug 22 2006, 12:13 AM)
Hey dumbasses! I see why you idiots post here. Bunch of crying and whining it sounds like to me. I didn't order this I didn't order that. BS you know you did. Also to the idiot who wrote that Sam Stern isn't registered with MSBA. Did you bother to read the disclaimer?

If the results do not include someone whom you are positive they should, it may be because that person is

-not a member of the MSBA, or
-has asked that their information not be listed in the MSBA's print directory.

Members may choose whether to have their home address or business address used in the directory; this database uses the business address when possible. It could also be that you have provided more information than is needed, but our database differs from what you entered in some respect. The fewer fields you can use to find the right person, the better.

Guess not dumbass. Get a life people. If you would spend as much time working to pay your bills as you did trying to get out of them, you wouldn't be here.

BTW- If you are dumb enough to give out the information they are asking for in this day in age, over the phone, you aren't even responsible enough to have a bank account or credit card.

Get some skills dumbfucks.
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GETALIFE
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QUOTE(ozwizardks @ Aug 24 2006, 03:58 PM)
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You know that if you all got a life you would not feel it necessary to bother other people and their family's. It is not necessary to dig into other people's personal business because you have shit in your closets to. ALSO clean up your own back yard before you start digging into others. If someone has so called hurt you in your life GET THE FUCK OVER IT leave shit alone ya whinny ass cry babies and sniviling little bed wetters and bastards mad.gif If you ordered shit then guess what YOU WERNT SCAMMED got it Pay your bills and move on to bigger and better things. Like maybe writting a book LOL sell it see you scam people on your old sniviling shit LOL. How can u look at your self in the mirror with all the crap you post on here and brush your teeth at the same time. I would like to know where your Religion is in all of this ? Because it is not christian I can tell ya that not the way your lips run freeley as they do. I suggest that you find God again and Let go and Let God He will take care of everything. Instead of trying to run the world yourself. It is to big for you to handle just paying your bills will be enuff for you to handle. Let God do his Job He dont need your help. Patrick is loved by number 1 King of King Lord of Lord which is God if you didnt know that and number 2 he is loved by all Gods messengers . Amen 2 you God RULES
GETALIFE
QUOTE(JLC1988 @ Jul 10 2006, 08:35 PM)
I have read all our your messages about sunshine readers and would like to know more information about this. Tomorrow I am actually starting my new job working at Sunshine Readers and would like to know more about what they are supposably up to?
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My suggestion is to go to work and do a wonderful job and dont listen to garbage
fighting back
QUOTE(GETALIFE @ Aug 25 2006, 07:20 PM)
My suggestion is to go to work and do a wonderful job and dont listen to garbage
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It looks like our friends from sunshine readers have decided to join us here on this site. I guess the heat is on and they are feeling it. So don't stop fighting them. The AG of MN is working so make sure you fill out the form and do it twice if they have doubled your order so that you have 2 complaints against them they have double billed you why not double your complaint to double their trouble. Remember to call the AG from your state too and fill out paper work with them.

I call the magazines and tell them my story and most of the time they agree to cancel the magazine right there. If you talk to the manager and you make sure to give them the web address of this site so they can read for themselves the misery this company has put people through they are shocked and don't want to have anything to do with sunshine any more. If they don't cancel the magazine they give you the name of the company that sunshine used to process the magazines and I know for a fact that they are losing processing companies because I have been told by more then one of them that they will no longer work with sunshine after they have checked out the company for themselves.



Babz214
QUOTE(fighting back @ Aug 25 2006, 10:10 PM)
It looks like our friends from sunshine readers have decided to join us here on this site.  I guess the heat is on and they are feeling it.  So don't stop fighting them.  The  AG of MN is working so make sure you fill out the form and do it twice if they have doubled your order so that you have 2 complaints against them they have double billed you why not double your complaint to double their trouble.  Remember to call the AG from your state too and fill out paper work with them.

I call the magazines and tell them my story and most of the time they agree to cancel the magazine right there.  If you talk to the manager and you make sure to give them the web address of this site so they can read for themselves the misery this company has put people through they are shocked and don't want to have anything to do with sunshine any more.  If they don't cancel the magazine they give you the name of the company that sunshine used to process the magazines and I know for a fact that they are losing processing companies because I have been told by more then one of them that they will no longer work with sunshine after they have checked out the company for themselves.
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Now, let's go over this again here "Fighting Back"; you say you "call the magazines and tell them your story". You call the magazines. What magazines ? I'm slightly confused. Talk to the manager where? What company are you talking about? You give these people the website to here, and they feel bad, and the company is supposedly losing "processing companies". Keep in mind, the second word in there is "companies". "Processing companies" don't give a damn about the circumstances as long as they're getting paid. What "processing companies" do you speak of?

I think you might be going in a circle here wishing that everyone was understanding but the fact is, you're just too lazy to pay your bills. You probably have a ton of credit card debt, and sit in your lazyboy and hope to get out of the magazine subscriptions that you, yourself, agreed to. I think it's slightly comical.

Do you say the same things to the credit card companies? "I was scammed! Even though I ordered my credit card and racked up the debt to thousands of dollars". Boo hoo. It's called making decisions. You make decisions as an adult in life; whether you get that new credit card, or decide to say "yes" on the phone to someone soliciting you. Either which way you look at it, you could have said no, but you didn't. That quite possibly could be your fault, and no one elses. People these days just won't own up to having to pay bills. Obviously you don't either.

Which leads me to my next point; simple fact that the woman who started this thread was a drug addict, and wanted to sleep with the owner of the company you all are complaining about. The owner was not interested in her advances, so this woman decided to drink a bottle and show up to the owner's house, freaky eh? So it must have been rubbing salt in her wounds when she was fired for all of her stunts at this company, including STEALING THOUSANDS of private accounts of which she was trusted with as one of the administrative employees. Private accounts; all of YOUR magazine accounts. She had access to extremely sensitive information, and you don't think that the magazine company she works for now isn't calling all of YOU on those stolen accounts and selling you more subscriptions?

Well folks, you're wrong, and they are, and if you think that you can trust this woman, well I wouldn't bet on it because she is a lieing, stealing, deceptive thief. She's no more trustworthy than a felon with a rapsheet a mile long that just got out of prison.

Yes, you heard me right. She hates this magazine company, but the one she's employed by one now is no better, if not worse. She was so willing to help all of you, but the fact is, the fellow employees she works with now are probably scamming all of you too.

She's still salty because she couldn't sleep with the owner of Sunshine Readers. Ha. The owner has higher standards than that.

With that, have a blessed day. Trust no one.
GETALIFE
QUOTE(Babz214 @ Aug 26 2006, 11:25 AM)
Now, let's go over this again here "Fighting Back"; you say you "call the magazines and tell them your story".  You call the magazines.  What magazines ?  I'm slightly confused.  Talk to the manager where?  What company are you talking about?  You give these people the website to here, and they feel bad, and the company is supposedly losing "processing companies".  Keep in mind, the second word in there is "companies".  "Processing companies" don't give a damn about the circumstances as long as they're getting paid.  What "processing companies" do you speak of? 

I think you might be going in a circle here wishing that everyone was understanding but the fact is, you're just too lazy to pay your bills.  You probably have a ton of credit card debt, and sit in your lazyboy and hope to get out of the magazine subscriptions that you, yourself, agreed to.  I think it's slightly comical.

Do you say the same things to the credit card companies?  "I was scammed!  Even though I ordered my credit card and racked up the debt to thousands of dollars".  Boo hoo.  It's called making decisions.  You make decisions as an adult in life; whether you get that new credit card, or decide to say "yes" on the phone to someone soliciting you.  Either which way you look at it, you could have said no, but you didn't.  That quite possibly could be your fault, and no one elses.  People these days just won't own up to having to pay bills.  Obviously you don't either.

Which leads me to my next point; simple fact that the woman who started this thread was a drug addict, and wanted to sleep with the owner of the company you all are complaining about.  The owner was not interested in her advances, so this woman decided to drink a bottle and show up to the owner's house, freaky eh?  So it must have been rubbing salt in her wounds when she was fired for all of her stunts at this company, including STEALING THOUSANDS of private accounts of which she was trusted with as one of the administrative employees.  Private accounts; all of YOUR magazine accounts.  She had access to extremely sensitive information, and you don't think that the magazine company she works for now isn't calling all of YOU on those stolen accounts and selling you more subscriptions?

Well folks, you're wrong, and they are, and if you think that you can trust this woman, well I wouldn't bet on it because she is a lieing, stealing, deceptive thief.  She's no more trustworthy than a felon with a rapsheet a mile long that just got out of prison.

Yes, you heard me right.  She hates this magazine company, but the one she's employed by one now is no better, if not worse.  She was so willing to help all of you, but the fact is, the fellow employees she works with now are probably scamming all of you too.

She's still salty because she couldn't sleep with the owner of Sunshine Readers.  Ha.  The owner has higher standards than that.

With that, have a blessed day.  Trust no one.
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AMEN to that Now that is about the only one of these posts that make any sense.
SO AL (and if anyone drinks they know who AL is) , you can whine all you want but guess what it dont work for babies and it wont work for you either. They also learn in life that you cant always get your way. Like I said LET GO AND LET GOD He will take care of this and maybe if you pray at night he will give you the strength to say NO there is this saying say NO TO DRUGS now I guess we have to put in there say NO TO MAGAZINES what ever works for you people I guess. Other wise quit drinking and saying yes to shit you dont mean to say yes to and regret it the next day a true Alcholic, I bet if you quit paying 5 bucks for cigarettes and 20 dollars for drinks then maybe you can afford to pay for what you ask for. with that again I say GOD RULES
fighting back
QUOTE(Babz214 @ Aug 26 2006, 10:25 AM)
Now, let's go over this again here "Fighting Back"; you say you "call the magazines and tell them your story".  You call the magazines.  What magazines ?  I'm slightly confused.  Talk to the manager where?  What company are you talking about?  You give these people the website to here, and they feel bad, and the company is supposedly losing "processing companies".  Keep in mind, the second word in there is "companies".  "Processing companies" don't give a damn about the circumstances as long as they're getting paid.  What "processing companies" do you speak of? 

I think you might be going in a circle here wishing that everyone was understanding but the fact is, you're just too lazy to pay your bills.  You probably have a ton of credit card debt, and sit in your lazyboy and hope to get out of the magazine subscriptions that you, yourself, agreed to.  I think it's slightly comical.

Do you say the same things to the credit card companies?  "I was scammed!  Even though I ordered my credit card and racked up the debt to thousands of dollars".  Boo hoo.  It's called making decisions.  You make decisions as an adult in life; whether you get that new credit card, or decide to say "yes" on the phone to someone soliciting you.  Either which way you look at it, you could have said no, but you didn't.  That quite possibly could be your fault, and no one elses.  People these days just won't own up to having to pay bills.  Obviously you don't either.

Which leads me to my next point; simple fact that the woman who started this thread was a drug addict, and wanted to sleep with the owner of the company you all are complaining about.  The owner was not interested in her advances, so this woman decided to drink a bottle and show up to the owner's house, freaky eh?  So it must have been rubbing salt in her wounds when she was fired for all of her stunts at this company, including STEALING THOUSANDS of private accounts of which she was trusted with as one of the administrative employees.  Private accounts; all of YOUR magazine accounts.  She had access to extremely sensitive information, and you don't think that the magazine company she works for now isn't calling all of YOU on those stolen accounts and selling you more subscriptions?

Well folks, you're wrong, and they are, and if you think that you can trust this woman, well I wouldn't bet on it because she is a lieing, stealing, deceptive thief.  She's no more trustworthy than a felon with a rapsheet a mile long that just got out of prison.

Yes, you heard me right.  She hates this magazine company, but the one she's employed by one now is no better, if not worse.  She was so willing to help all of you, but the fact is, the fellow employees she works with now are probably scamming all of you too.

She's still salty because she couldn't sleep with the owner of Sunshine Readers.  Ha.  The owner has higher standards than that.

With that, have a blessed day.  Trust no one.
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GETALIFE
QUOTE(fighting back @ Aug 25 2006, 09:10 PM)
It looks like our friends from sunshine readers have decided to join us here on this site.  I guess the heat is on and they are feeling it.  So don't stop fighting them.  The  AG of MN is working so make sure you fill out the form and do it twice if they have doubled your order so that you have 2 complaints against them they have double billed you why not double your complaint to double their trouble.  Remember to call the AG from your state too and fill out paper work with them.

I call the magazines and tell them my story and most of the time they agree to cancel the magazine right there.  If you talk to the manager and you make sure to give them the web address of this site so they can read for themselves the misery this company has put people through they are shocked and don't want to have anything to do with sunshine any more.  If they don't cancel the magazine they give you the name of the company that sunshine used to process the magazines and I know for a fact that they are losing processing companies because I have been told by more then one of them that they will no longer work with sunshine after they have checked out the company for themselves.
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Guss what Mr Dick I am not sunshine reader or your friend and this site is here for all and not just about bad shit there is allways good in things also I am not feeling any heat as I could care less about you I am saying you should say what you got to say and move on quit harping on the same old shit do u not ever move on in your life or are you always stuck in one thing like this if so that is a sad situation you will go NOWHERE in life. So dont worry about me coming to this site if ya didnt want me here you should of made it private but then again nothing is private lets hear about your private business bet it aint cute lol or holy as you think you are mr perfect so again I say MOVE ON GET A LIFE GOD RULES
GETALIFE
QUOTE(GETALIFE @ Aug 26 2006, 06:39 PM)
Guss what Mr Dick  I am not sunshine reader or your friend and this site is here for all and not just about bad shit there is allways good in things also  I am not feeling any heat as I could care less about you I am saying you should say what you got to say and move on quit harping on the same old shit do u not ever move on in your life or are you always stuck in one thing like this if so that is a sad situation you will go NOWHERE in life. So dont worry about me coming to this site if ya didnt want me here you should of made it private but then again nothing is private lets hear about your private business bet it aint cute lol or holy as you think you are mr perfect so again I say MOVE ON GET  A LIFE  GOD RULES
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i guess these scammers themselves dont want to talk now isnt that something all mouth until the truth comes out then they shut right up huh good Keep it that way you did a good job of GETTING A LIFE
stillgotcharged
I hope we all get this resolved. I was contacted by Sunshine readers and ended up hanging up on them. I was told that I would just have to pay shipping charges. He said my cc would be charged the first month. I gave my number and then decided I did not want my cc charged and asked if I could just pay by check when I received the magazines. He said yes and then asked for the three digits on the back of my cc thats when I hung up on him. I just said I would pay by check and he still asked for the digits.. I knew then that I didn't want any part of this business. I did not realize that they would still charge my cc. I did not authorize for it to be used. I called them the day that I received the letter stating that I owed over 900. and tried to cancel. I did not have a customer service number before then or I would have called them the same day they called me because my cc was charged twice. But when I called no one answered the phone. The next day I get an answering machine and leave a message that I want to cancel. Finally, I get to talk to a person and tell them I want to cancel. She says I had three days to cancel and my call was made a day late. For one, I was never told about the three day rule.Come on!!!!!!!!!!!!! I call and no one answers...the next day I call again to cancel and I'm a day late..Yeah right... and two ..... I should not have been involved with this crooked business anyway.. there is no binding contract everything can be returned or canceled..and there is not a contract when there is no closure to the deal..that's just how it is.. Anyway, I filed a complaint with the bbb. I hope we get this taken care of. CROOKED BUSINESS OPERATED BY CROOKED PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ozwizardks
biggrin.gif well, i just received confirmation from the MN BBB and am pleased to announce that Sunshine Readers have credited my card company for all incurred charges, have cancelled my 'alledged' orders and taken me off their call list. i had to fight for this. i registered a complaint with the MN BBB, my state Attorney General and the FTC. due to these complaints, they have dropped their web site and i do believe the BBB is concerned with the practices of this company. i also sent to the BBB the webiste for this thread so the resolution manager could read about all the grievances posted here in regards to Sunshine Readers. KEEP COMPLAINING AND FILING YOUR COMPLAINTS. IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE. YOUR STORY CAN HAVE A HAPPY ENDING TOO. and perhaps if enough people stand up and fight back, companies like this will no longer continue to operate in this manner and something will be done to change it. thank you all for your support!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! biggrin.gif laugh.gif rolleyes.gif cool.gif wink.gif
montana
It just sickens me to see the lies posted on this link. Patrick is one of the kindest and most giving people that I have ever met in my life. Perhaps his biggest flaw is that he has such a big heart and gives scum like Genea Munson (and others) a job. There is nothing that Patrick wont do to help the people in his life, and then he just gets shit on, by these same people. I think that these people should take a close look at their own lives because they are not in a position to say shit about Patrick. He has worked endless hours for many years to build this company and these slanderous lies about Sunshine Readers are bullshit. Most of the messages on this link are by bitter former employees and not customers. Sunshine Readers has thousands of satisfied customers but unfortunately they dont post messages. Any company will have some unsatisfied customers, as does Sunshine Readers, but the vast majority of customers are very pleased with the service they are receiving on their account. When you losers pick on Patrick you are way out of your league and I think you pukes just should grow-up.

God Bless Patrick, his family and many hard working and honest employees of Sunshine readers!! tongue.gif

stillgotcharged
QUOTE(montana @ Sep 2 2006, 07:13 AM)
It just sickens me to see the lies posted on this link.  Patrick is one of the kindest and most giving people that I have ever met in my life.  Perhaps his biggest flaw is that he has such a big heart and gives scum like Genea Munson (and others) a job.  There is nothing that Patrick wont do to help the people in his life, and then he just gets shit on, by these same people.  I think that these people should take a close look at their own lives because they are not in a position to say shit about Patrick.  He has worked endless hours for many years to build this company and these slanderous lies about Sunshine Readers are bullshit.  Most of the messages on this link are by bitter former employees and not customers.  Sunshine Readers has thousands of satisfied customers but unfortunately they dont post messages.  Any company will have some unsatisfied customers, as does Sunshine Readers,  but the vast majority of customers are very pleased with the service they are receiving on their account.  When you losers pick on Patrick you are way out of your league and I think you pukes just should grow-up. 

God Bless Patrick, his family and many hard working and honest employees of Sunshine readers!! tongue.gif
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I am not a former employee... I could have been a good customer had I not been lied to. When I called customer service the woman was very rude! And it does not matter if people actually did place an order (which most were tricked)... the order should be able to be discontinued at any time. Most companies have a cancel at anytime policy, but I guess crooked companies have to lie and cheat people to make the "Almighty Dollar." BTW all the names you called everybody...you should grow up.
GETALIFE
QUOTE(stillgotcharged @ Sep 2 2006, 10:23 PM)
I am not a former employee... I could have been a good customer had I not been lied to. When I called customer service the woman was very rude! And it does not matter if people actually did place an order (which most were tricked)... the order should be able to be discontinued at any time. Most companies have a cancel at anytime policy, but I guess crooked companies have to lie and cheat people to make the "Almighty Dollar." BTW all the names you called everybody...you should grow up.
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First of all You dont need to be a former employee to know Patrick, dickhead If you knew him you would know he does his best. Second if you ordered some books then just pay for them and shut the hell up Go and whine to your mother APPARENTLY she didnt do a good job at teaching you LIFE, Life is PAY YOUR BILLS AL .Al Bundy told Peg she had to pay the bills LOLOLOL Stop this stupid ass shit on the internet because unless you want to post all your shit in your closet then shut the fuck up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND THIRD GET A FUCKING LIFE LOW LIFE BASTARDS Alot of people from All over Love Patrick and his family can u say the same thing about yourself. God Bless Patrick and GOD RULES
stillgotcharged
QUOTE(GETALIFE @ Sep 3 2006, 06:27 PM)
First of all You dont need to be a former employee to know Patrick,  dickhead If you knew him you would know he does his best. Second if you ordered some books then just pay for them and shut the hell up Go and whine to your mother APPARENTLY she didnt do a good job at teaching you LIFE, Life is PAY YOUR BILLS AL .Al Bundy told Peg she had to pay the bills LOLOLOL  Stop this stupid ass shit on the internet because unless you want to post all your shit in your closet then shut the fuck up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  AND THIRD GET A FUCKING LIFE LOW LIFE BASTARDS Alot of people from All over Love Patrick and his family can u say the same thing about yourself. God Bless Patrick and GOD RULES
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WOW you really sound educated. I'm glad God is a forgiving God because someone like you should not be saying his name. If you had read the message I replied to then you would have read where it said most of these messages were by former employees. I was letting people know that there are some FORCED customers listed here too. And another thing I did not order the books. I ended the call without giving permission for my cc to be charged! And it still got charged. And BTW I have never met anyone who didn't like a dickhead!!!!!!!! Thanks for the compliment. Also, my mother did all she could do the teach me about life and that does include being honest and treating others with respect and that just because someone does not agree with me that is no reason to call them names and get angry... It sounds like you were not taught many educated words to use, or how to communicate with other people. And if Patrick really cared about people he would insure everything was ligit and not trick everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are too many complaints against this company, but go ahead and defend them.. we all know who the liars are. This is not the only site that has complaints againt Sunshine Readers go to www.ripoffreport.com and put in Sunshine Readers and read those comments.
ozwizardks
laugh.gif ya know, i can tell by some of the posts listed here that some of these people who seem to be supportative of Sunshine Readers must be inbreds from the same family. they obviously are uncouth and have no manners whatsoever....it seems they can't reply in any way that doesn't involve foul language. i would take a guess and say they are employees of this company or one of their uneducated, incestual, half-breed progeny that were never taught to use good manners, words having more than five letters and foul language as their first language. this shows how ignorant and petty they are. i suppose tho that people like this have never had a problem in their life other than what slop do they feed the pigs...er family today.... if ignorance is bliss to these people, they must be totally orgasmic...... i almost hate to think of what they may become should they ever grow up....i bet they go home every nite and kiss the dogs and kick the kids. their mentality is so low, they don't open doors, they slither under them. that's ok, everybody has their own opinion, except theirs..it doesn't count. just keep complaining about this company and turn them in to the BBB, Attorney General and the FTC. i know this works as i have my own success story. they are not in good standing with the BBB due to the large amount of complaints. and my complaint was resolved when they sent a letter to the BBB and withdrew their 'supposedly' contract, refunded money and took my number off their call list. i did not back down from their threats...don't you either...go ahead...check out their track record at the MN BBB. it speaks for itself. good luck to all you good people, and you all that support sunshine readers, well...karma will take care of you in its own time. later people... biggrin.gif
KoolCat1999
QUOTE(GETALIFE @ Aug 26 2006, 11:58 AM)
AMEN to that Now that is about the only one of these posts that make any sense. 
SO AL (and if anyone drinks they know who AL is) ,  you can whine all you want but guess what it dont work for babies and it wont work for you either.  They also learn in life that you cant always get your way.  Like I said LET GO AND LET GOD  He will take care of this and maybe if you pray at night he will give you the strength to say NO there is this saying say NO TO DRUGS now I guess we have to put in there say NO TO MAGAZINES what ever works for you people I guess. Other wise quit drinking and saying yes to shit you dont mean to say yes to and regret it the next day a true Alcholic,  I bet if you quit paying 5 bucks for cigarettes and 20 dollars for drinks then maybe you can afford to pay for what you ask for.  with that again I say GOD RULES
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Hey big Chris P. You know I think this forum is hilarious. You guys are only attracting more attention by first having the fake lawyer, and now the sunshine sales crew chiming in. For all I know the author of this forum may have stolen your accounts and may be calling to sell them more magazines as you have alleged, but even if thats the case, at least she is CALLING them before BILLING them and presumably actually SENDING them something (that is more than I can say about the Home Office Magazine, and don't pretend you don't know what I am talking about big guy.) I think maybe you should save more of your obviously well rehearsed foul-mouthed charm for your day in court, as it would save the prosecutors some effort in convicting you and the much "loved" Patrick.
stillgotcharged
I am happy to announce that my complaint against Sunshine Readers has been resolved. I received a call from someone in the billing department and he was very respectful and everything got taken care of. So, "GETALIFE" go get one and stop harassing the educated! Thanks to the BBB I am Sunshine FREE!
fydust01
QUOTE(g_munson03 @ Jan 21 2006, 02:42 PM)
I am a former employee.  I have the necessary information to help anyone who has been scammed by either of these companies.  I urge you to send me a message.  There are many former employees willing to testify to the unethical practices and fraudulent billing which occured on a daily basis-and still is.  If you're reading this and you know someone who was ripped off by either of these companies, please, let's bring justice to them.
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i am still being billed- i cant cancel - and when i called sunshine some nasty guy said that i couldnt cancel and that i was stuck paying them 29.90 every month for 5 years
wtf do i do now?
stillgotcharged
QUOTE(fydust01 @ Sep 6 2006, 03:06 PM)
i am still being billed- i cant cancel - and when i called sunshine some nasty guy said that i couldnt cancel and that i was stuck paying them 29.90 every month for 5 years
wtf do i do now?
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I called customer service first, same thing she told me she could not cancel my order, I then filed a complaint with the MN BBB, that worked, within 5 days I received a phone call from Sunshine's billing manager saying that he received the complaint and wished he could have talked to me before it went this far. I should not have been charged, I did not agree to the contract, yet I was still charged... they could not justify charging my account, call customer service and ask to speak to the billing manager I think his ext. is 216. Hope this helps.
stillgotcharged
Has anyone had any problems with charges other than Sunshine on their cc? I turned them into the BBB and now there are charges (from other companies) that I have no idea how they got there. The day the charges posted I was at work. The is not a transaction date or a reference number of the charges that were posted. Anyone had the same problems?
ozwizardks
QUOTE(stillgotcharged @ Sep 7 2006, 08:59 PM)
Has anyone had any problems with charges other than Sunshine on their cc? I turned them into the BBB and now there are charges (from other companies) that I have no idea how they got there. The day the charges posted I was at work. The is not a transaction date or a reference number of the charges that were posted. Anyone had the same problems?
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ozwizardks
QUOTE(stillgotcharged @ Sep 7 2006, 08:59 PM)
Has anyone had any problems with charges other than Sunshine on their cc? I turned them into the BBB and now there are charges (from other companies) that I have no idea how they got there. The day the charges posted I was at work. The is not a transaction date or a reference number of the charges that were posted. Anyone had the same problems?
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if you did not authorize any charges that appear on your credit card, the first thing you should do is contact your credit card company customer service department. tell them about the unauthorized charges and request a chargeback of the monies to your account and file a fraudulent charge use and have them investigate. most credit card companies will take the charges off and start an investigation into the matter. good luck my friend and may all your karma be good.
stillgotcharged
QUOTE(ozwizardks @ Sep 8 2006, 06:29 AM)
if you did not authorize any charges that appear on your credit card, the first thing you should do is contact your credit card company customer service department.  tell them about the unauthorized charges and request a chargeback of the monies to your account and file a fraudulent charge use and have them investigate.  most credit card companies will take the charges off and start an investigation into the matter.  good luck my friend and may all your karma be good.
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I called my cc company last night and they have blocked the current card # and are sending me another. And today when I got home from work there was another charge! sad.gif
stillgotcharged
I don't believe Sunshine (at least I hope not) had anything to do with the charges that are being put on my cc account. It was strange that after the MN BBB sent them my complaint that this happened, but I still don't think they were involved. Anyway, the charges can't go through because the account has been changed.
immeljb@frontiernet.net
QUOTE(stillgotcharged @ Sep 7 2006, 05:59 PM)
Has anyone had any problems with charges other than Sunshine on their cc? I turned them into the BBB and now there are charges (from other companies) that I have no idea how they got there. The day the charges posted I was at work. The is not a transaction date or a reference number of the charges that were posted. Anyone had the same problems?
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immeljb@frontiernet.net
QUOTE(stillgotcharged @ Sep 7 2006, 05:59 PM)
Has anyone had any problems with charges other than Sunshine on their cc? I turned them into the BBB and now there are charges (from other companies) that I have no idea how they got there. The day the charges posted I was at work. The is not a transaction date or a reference number of the charges that were posted. Anyone had the same problems?
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I have been scammed by these people too...we had to close our bank account...we contacted the bbb and attorney general in our area...I have been scammed by mutiple magazines companies....you are not alone!
kensi599
QUOTE(g_munson03 @ Jan 21 2006, 10:42 AM)
I am a former employee.  I have the necessary information to help anyone who has been scammed by either of these companies.  I urge you to send me a message.  There are many former employees willing to testify to the unethical practices and fraudulent billing which occured on a daily basis-and still is.  If you're reading this and you know someone who was ripped off by either of these companies, please, let's bring justice to them.
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how do you get them to stop the debit from your account??
stillgotcharged
QUOTE(kensi599 @ Oct 3 2006, 04:26 PM)
how do you get them to stop the debit from your account??
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I contacted the Better Business Bureau (through the internet) and in less than a week Sunshine Readers called me and cancelled my account and refunded my credit to my card. All I had to do was contact the BBB and that worked for me. Good luck.
makoxboi
Hey guys i just signed up for the sunshine readers the other day. the same day i signed up i found this forum so i quickly canceled my credit card. I got my new credit card now, but i found that i have the first charge on the sunshine readers on my credit. I am wondering if thiers still going to charge me after i pay that off. I hope not.
Kotiya
I was in a bit of a mess ($967.51 for three magazines, very funny) with SunShine Readers, even though I had cancelled first in the initial conversation and then twice again with other people to make sure, which didn't seem to make a difference. I had contacted the BBB, FTC, and the attorney generals of MN and my resident state, but didn't get the fast results I needed to avoid impending action by a collection agency.

Desperate for immediate action, I contacted the publishing company of the magazines I "subscribed" to (a big joke since I never even asked for those particular ones in the first place), and spoke to its president about my situation. Those magazine companies do NOT want to be associated with scammers whatsoever, and the next day I received a call from Sunshine Readers to apologize and cancel my subscription. Within a week I received an apology letter and a check for the money they had charged my checking account. Whatever he said to them was appearently a lot more threatening than any lawsuit a government agency could pose.

In this case it is faster, easier, and more effective to get help from those with a financial interest in keeping you content with their product.
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