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bigjohnson
I've gotten repeated calls from a number 813-740-8275 (identified as a Verizon number through reverse call lookup) in which the caller just hangs up after you answer. I've noticed that others on this message board complain of the same thing. I called Verizon security in New York to complain about it and they simply said that since I was not a Verizon customer they couldn't do anything.

I just today got a call from 727-544-0057 in St. Petersburg, also a Verizon number, in which the guy asked me if I had applied for credit in the past six months. I said no I had not and why was this his business. He said that's what he was simply trying to find out and hung up. I called this number back and a lady identified the company as Fidelity Credit and said if I gave her my number she would remove it from their call list. Since they already had my Bellsouth number, I went ahead and gave that to them although I was calling them on my Skype phone. I did a search on Google for Fidelity Credit and came up with nothing, so the name is obviously a front for some other activity.

I've done a little telemarketing in my day while in-between real jobs, and this is not how telemarketing operates. Telemarketing is a numbers game and they don't waste time doing "research." It's all about pitching and pitching and pitching. These folks making the phone calls are doing some kind of research or investigation for either law enforcement or criminal purposes. That seems obvious.

In the context of information that has been revealed recently about NSA spying, I know that I have been the subject of such wiretaps on calls I've made overseas. I've heard coughs and chairs scooting around and things of that sort when my other party wasn't even on the line. I've also been tailed locally by strange vehicles (plain Chevrolets and Fords) and conspicuously observed by goon types while eating lunch with business associates. The reason for all of this, I'm sure, is that I'm a writer and have been outspoken in support for civil rights and against the Christian Right and George Bush's private little war. This phone activity is unique in my experience, but I often wonder if someone making a call without any clearly stated purpose or willingness to engage in discussion is simply setting up a computer link to a number through which certain electronic tones become identified by answering the call and can then be tracked when they are associated with some number being specifically observed. The tones would trigger either recording devices or some other monitoring system. I found it greatly interesting that my calls overseas were instantaneously monitored but other local calls were often not, but this is probably done simply by entering a country code different from our own. I suspect that there must be some reason for differentiating between certain types of calls or identifying sources of calls without the necessity of getting phone records from phone companies.

If anyone else believes that their activities may bring them under scrutiny for similar reasons and has been receiving these types of calls, I'd be interested.

As to the issue of getting off call lists, I'd certainly recommend Skype. It's untraceable and I'm never bothered by harrassing calls through that system. I've been testing it for a couple of months to see how dependable it is, and I'm definitely ready to drop Bellsouth. You can buy portable wireless phones you can use anywhere in your house and you can take your number on the road with you via your laptop. I don't use cell phones-- hate the damm things -- and this answers all those types of problems.
Guest
QUOTE(bigjohnson @ Jan 10 2006, 02:08 PM)
I've gotten repeated calls from a number 813-740-8275 (identified as a Verizon number through reverse call lookup) in which the caller just hangs up after you answer.  I've noticed that others on this message board complain of the same thing.  I called Verizon security in New York to complain about it and they simply said that since I was not a Verizon customer they couldn't do anything. 

I just today got a call from 727-544-0057 in St. Petersburg, also a Verizon number, in which the guy asked me if I had applied for credit in the past six months.  I said no I had not and why was this his business.  He said that's what he was simply trying to find out and hung up.  I called this number back and a lady identified the company as Fidelity Credit and said if I gave her my number she would remove it from their call list.  Since they already had my Bellsouth number, I went ahead and gave that to them although I was calling them on my Skype phone.  I did a search on Google for Fidelity Credit and came up with nothing, so the name is obviously a front for some other activity.

I've done a little telemarketing in my day while in-between real jobs, and this is not how telemarketing operates.  Telemarketing is a numbers game and they don't waste time doing "research."  It's all about pitching and pitching and pitching.  These folks making the phone calls are doing some kind of research or investigation for either law enforcement or criminal purposes. That seems obvious. 

In the context of information that has been revealed recently about NSA spying, I know that I have been the subject of such wiretaps on calls I've made overseas.  I've heard coughs and chairs scooting around and things of that sort when my other party wasn't even on the line.  I've also been tailed locally by strange vehicles (plain Chevrolets and Fords)  and conspicuously observed by goon types while eating lunch with business associates.  The reason for all of this, I'm sure, is that I'm a writer and have been outspoken in support for civil rights and against the Christian Right and George Bush's private little war.  This phone activity is unique in my experience, but I often wonder if someone making a call without any clearly stated purpose or willingness to engage in discussion is simply setting up a computer link to a number through which certain electronic tones become identified by answering the call and can then be tracked when they are associated with some number being specifically observed.  The tones would trigger either recording devices or some other monitoring system.  I found it greatly interesting that my calls overseas were instantaneously monitored but other local calls were often not, but this is probably done simply by entering a country code different from our own.  I suspect that there must be some reason for differentiating between certain types of calls or identifying sources of calls without the necessity of getting phone records from phone companies.

If anyone else believes that their activities may bring them under scrutiny for similar reasons and has been receiving these types of calls, I'd be interested.

As to the issue of getting off call lists, I'd certainly recommend Skype.  It's untraceable and I'm never bothered by harrassing calls through that system. I've been testing it for a couple of months to see how dependable it is, and I'm definitely ready to drop Bellsouth.  You can buy portable wireless phones you can use anywhere in your house and you can take your number on the road with you via your laptop.  I don't use cell phones-- hate the damm things -- and this answers all those types of problems.
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Hey, I believe you, I understand exactly what you are describing. Bellsouth thinks I am crazy but I heard the same thing, the coughing, moving of chairs, breathing, I could hear somebody listening. This was last summer after I yelled at my Congressman's secretary about something that should not have happened in America. Won't go into details here. But, after that and lots of letter writing...suddenly I started getting these strange phone calls from..."telemarkerters" (per google) ....and I had a listed number and had never had that problem before. The thing is, these callers weren't trying to sell me anything, they were harrassing the hell out of me and trying to scare me with noises. One time I heard a series of gun shots, like a machine gun. I am telling the truth and I do NOT have any mental problems, my family can attest to that. I wish I could go into more detail but I won't but I can honestly say, I believe yah, been there and done that.


When I read about the NSA recently, it clicked, and made me really wonder. It would not surprise me at all.
Guest


Fidelity Credit, Inc. is an inactive corporation in Clearwater (727) but there is a "Fidelity Credit Counselors" in Clearwater, with homeoffice in Largo. Same as Suntasia. These people are scamming. I was told the Cult of Scientology (HDQS in Clearwater, Fla) does a lot of Telemarketing to steal banking information from people. Don't know if it is true, I guess you would have to ask Charlie if he is a Scientologist.

BEVIS, CHARLIE C
1628 GREENLEA DR

CLEARWATER FL 33755
Guest
[B]This is their REAL website. http://www.suntasia.com

Also, they just changed their name again from Agents Travel Network to Travel Agents Direct. The Florida Passport is now called "Floridaway" and the Teleflex calling card is now "PRISM COMMUNICATIONS".
Guest
As of February 28th, 2006 Agents Travel Network is now called Travel Agents Direct and most of the phone numbers have changed. They still have the main customer service number as 1-800-853-9982 and the office number is still 727-471-0276.

They are located at 8751 Ulmerton Road, Largo, FL 33771 NOT the address they give you over the phone. The address they give (the seminole one) is to the travel agency that supposedly takes care of the free vacation which is another lie. It isn't free at all. The $400 in airline vouchers they offer only cover a small fraction of what the ticket costs. You have to fork over everything else yourself.

Also, the Florida Passport the $149 hotel accomodations to Orlando & Fort Lauderdale (time share program) is now called "Floridaway". The calling card "Teleflex" was changed to "PRISM Communications". It sounds like "prison" when you're selling it over the phone. lol

These changes were made because like in the past, many people catch on sooner or later and start complaining. The manager even admitted in a meeting right before the change took place that it had to be made because every year or so "things have to look different" in order to keep going.

Sorry to say, as a former employee I knew the product was foul after a while. I found out that the discount travel card they send you has to be returned to them otherwise you'll get charged. As for the calling card (Teleflex, Prism etc), if the customer doesn't want it, they have to write a letter which states to deactivate the card otherwise they'll be charged $49.95. Sadly many were charged anyway before they got the package whether it was the travel, phone card, the hotel accomodations or ALL three packages.

The company that owns all these different names including "Capital Vacations" is called, "Suntasia Marketing".

Their website is http://www.suntasia.com. There, you'll find ALL the REAL corporate officers and their agenda. Make NO mistake about it, this company is ONLY geared towards making money and NOT into promoting a satisfying product.

Sad to say they made $20 million dollars (2004/2005 fiscal year) off of the backs of innocent people. I saw the numbers myself in one of their brochure reports. How long can they go before someone FINALLY puts an end to this charade. Feel free to ask me any questions. I am here to help.

BEWARE OF SCAM-TASIA ! !

Thanks,

Joe
Joe
QUOTE(Guest @ Jan 12 2006, 06:57 PM)
Fidelity Credit, Inc.  is an inactive corporation in Clearwater (727) but there is a "Fidelity Credit Counselors" in Clearwater, with homeoffice in Largo. Same as Suntasia. These people are scamming. I was told the Cult of Scientology (HDQS in Clearwater, Fla) does a lot of Telemarketing to steal banking information from people. Don't know if it is true, I guess you would have to ask Charlie if he is a Scientologist.

BEVIS, CHARLIE C
1628 GREENLEA DR

CLEARWATER FL 33755
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First of all DON'T make the assumption that just because a company is calling you from florida that it's a scam. I live here and I know the good, bad and the ugly of this state. We've already covered Suntasia Marketing in this forum so I don't need to repeat myself. As for the Church of Scientology, while I'll agree they have alot of property in Clearwater, they DO NOT OWN "Fidelity Debt Consultants". They (Fidelity) are there to help you. I should know I'm on their program.

Americans need to educate themselves more on their debt. FDC has your debst arbritrated. They work from the debt down NOT from the debt up which is what other companies do (ie debt consolidators, refinancing, a joke in itself really). So many americans are in debt, yet they will pay above and beyond what they're suppose to pay instead of doing their homework to get out of their mess.

It's very simple, do the math yourself. If you owe $10,000 in unsecured debt (ie credit cards, personal loans etc) and are paying $300 a month or more. It will take you the next 10 to 15 years to pay off and you would of paid over $30,000 to your creditors. What Fidelity does is takes that $10,000 and arbritrates it down to a reasonable level without interest or fees. You end up with a debt of no more than $7500 at most to pay in monthly installments and you'll be out of debt in less than 2.5 years with a GUARANTEED 0% interest rate. All their service fees are included in that $7500. It makes sense.

I have a friend of mine who sign me up because I was in DEEP financial trouble and didn't know about this debt arbritration. It is your federal right to have your debts arbritrated and your creditors know this but they rather have you go another way because with arbritration they can't collect your interest which is "Legalized Extortion in this country".

Look in your "terms and conditions" that your credit card companies sent you along with your card and it should be number 2 on the list. It states "Debt Arbritration" and it explains your rights to have it if need be. My friend who works there tells me people in this country are so blind to ALL of their options and sad to say become numb to their debt, thinking it's ok to keep paying 4 times as much for something they don't owe.

Here is their website for more information. Please EDUCATE yourself before making any more STUPID statements.

http://www.fidelitydebt.com/ or http://universaldr.com/

They are members of Dunn and Bradtstreet, the worlds largest in business information provider. You can't buy your way in there, you have to be selected by them for your good business practices. They are bonded and insured for 1 million dollars to protect their clients. They have also settled over $40,000,000 worth of debt in the last two years.

So before you open your mouth just remember I know about this company because I belong to their program and my debt will be taken care of correctly. STOP being foolish and learn how to research something before you open your mouth.


Joe
Joe
Oh and for those who need more information due to heavy debt, you can write or call to them at:

Fidelity Debt Consultants
Suite 350
Clearwater, Florida 33755

1-800-705-0961 ext 110

http://www.fidelitydebt.com/

Not everyone is a scam and when I see a decent company I will speak up just like when I see a bad one. As Americans we REALLY need to investigate instead of pointing fingers at everyone that calls. Unlike some of these other companies (ie Suntasia) that don't give you a REAL address, hide their website, and promote a questionable product at best, they (Fidelity) are out in the open. You can even stop by to visit and see for yourself. I certainly wouldn't put my trust and money in a company that I had trouble finding or contacting.


One quick side note" Fidelity Debts Consultants is on the third floor and the FBI is on the fourth. I think if this company wasn't on the up and up, then they would have to be MORONS to operate right underneath federal agents.
Joe
Joe
Oops, sorry forgot a very important part of the address. lol My fault.

Fidelity Debt Consultants
601 Cleveland street
Suite 350
Clearwater, Florida 33755

1-800-705-0961 ext 110
John
Can you tell me if they also commit fraud thru your checking account information. I received a call today and they had all my information. When we called them back they tried to twist around and say I gave them this info. He was very argumentative and got very deffensive. He did state he would remove all of our information from their system. However, I noticed a note on another screen that they would use the account info and debit checking account and or use the information they have to get credit cards. The guy also stated they bought this information from another company. Is there a way to find out what company sold this info to them?
Thanks,
QUOTE(Guest @ Mar 5 2006, 06:35 PM)
As of February 28th, 2006 Agents Travel Network is now called Travel Agents Direct and most of the phone numbers have changed. They still have the main customer service number as 1-800-853-9982 and the office number is still 727-471-0276.

They are located at 8751 Ulmerton Road, Largo, FL 33771 NOT the address they give you over the phone. The address they give (the seminole one) is to the travel agency that supposedly takes care of the free vacation which is another lie. It isn't free at all. The $400 in airline vouchers they offer only cover a small fraction of what the ticket costs. You have to fork over everything else yourself.

Also, the Florida Passport the $149 hotel accomodations to Orlando & Fort Lauderdale (time share program) is now called "Floridaway". The calling card "Teleflex" was changed to "PRISM Communications". It sounds like "prison" when you're selling it over the phone. lol

These changes were made because like in the past, many people catch on sooner or later and start complaining. The manager even admitted in a meeting right before the change took place that it had to be made because every year or so "things have to look different" in order to keep going.

Sorry to say, as a former employee I knew the product was foul after a while. I found out that the discount travel card they send you has to be returned to them otherwise you'll get charged. As for the calling card (Teleflex, Prism etc), if the customer doesn't want it, they have to write a letter which states to deactivate the card otherwise they'll be charged $49.95. Sadly many were charged anyway before they got the package whether it was the travel, phone card, the hotel accomodations or ALL three packages.

The company that owns all these different names including "Capital Vacations" is called, "Suntasia Marketing".

Their website is http://www.suntasia.com. There, you'll find ALL the REAL corporate officers and their agenda. Make NO mistake about it, this company is ONLY geared towards making money and NOT into promoting a satisfying product.

Sad to say they made $20 million dollars (2004/2005 fiscal year) off of the backs of innocent people. I saw the numbers myself in one of their brochure reports. How long can they go before someone FINALLY puts an end to this charade. Feel free to ask me any questions. I am here to help.

BEWARE OF SCAM-TASIA ! !

Thanks,

Joe

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Joe
John, Suntasia has been known to charge their customers the day after they sign them up. As long as you do what I stated in other posts (send cease and desist letters etc) then you have nothing to worry about. When a telemarketer from Suntasia calls like any other solicitor, all they have is your name, address, phone number. Unless you give them the rest like bank info or credit cards they REALLY can't do any damage. So when these turd balls call just tell them to read you the "Do Not Call" disclosure statement and have them take you off your list.

After that follow it up with a strong letter to CEASE and DESIST.

Joe
JJ
TRIPE.
Adam
My brother just recently told me he had given them his information. As soon as I read this I had him change his account information to prevent any billing that could possibly be done. Hopefully this will work otherwise I will have to find a way around it.
Paulie From FL
QUOTE(Joe @ Mar 13 2006, 09:00 PM)
John, Suntasia has been known to charge their customers the day after they sign them up. As long as you do what I stated in other posts (send cease and desist letters etc) then you have nothing to worry about. When a telemarketer from Suntasia calls like any other solicitor, all they have is your name, address, phone number. Unless you give them the rest like bank info or credit cards they REALLY can't do any damage. So when these turd balls call just tell them to read you the "Do Not Call" disclosure statement and have them take you off your list.

After that follow it up with a strong letter to CEASE and DESIST.

Joe

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Actually I just recieved a call from them and somehow they had all of my information. They actually read me my checking account information... I don't know what they are up to but I put my bank on watch to check my account for any charges from this company. If I am charged I will file for fraudulant charges and take them to court if necessary.
Guest
QUOTE(Paulie From FL @ Mar 27 2006, 11:46 AM)
Actually I just recieved a call from them and somehow they had all of my information. They actually read me my checking account information... I don't know what they are up to but I put my bank on watch to check my account for any charges from this company. If I am charged I will file for fraudulant charges and take them to court if necessary.
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Usually they only read you a routing number (at least they did in my case). I talked to a guy from Bank of America and he said that each state has its own routing number. For example, everyone in the state of NC would have the number of 352352 and everyone in the state of Florida would have 463465. Whatever you do, DO NOT give them your account number. If they charge you, you cannot dispute the transaction because you GAVE it to them. The only thing you can do is either eat the loss or just call the company and tell them that they charged you x amount of dollars before the trial period was even over.
Guest
i'm getting the 727-544-0057 number calling me all the time now
dave
QUOTE(John @ Mar 13 2006, 12:51 PM)
Can you tell me if they also commit fraud thru your checking account information. I received a call today and they had all my information. When we called them back they tried to twist around and say I gave them this info. He was very argumentative and got very deffensive. He did state he would remove all of our information from their system. However, I noticed a note on another screen that they would use the account info and debit checking account and or use the information they have to get credit cards. The guy also stated they bought this information from another company. Is there a way to find out what company sold this info to them?
Thanks,
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haha..yeah i used to work for them..it was pretty interesting how they scamed everyone but then they just denied it sayin git was "free"
Guest
the 727-544-0057 number will NOT STOP CALLING ME. how the fuck can they keep calling after you ask to be taken off? I'm going to hit record call next time they call, and I'll save it, and then file suit against them for failing to remove me from their list at my demand.
Sherri
I'm getting phone calls from this number on my cell phone and everytime I try to call them back, I get a busy signal. I wonder how they got my number? And now I have to figure out how to get them to stop calling me.



QUOTE(bigjohnson @ Jan 10 2006, 02:08 PM)
I've gotten repeated calls from a number 813-740-8275 (identified as a Verizon number through reverse call lookup) in which the caller just hangs up after you answer.  I've noticed that others on this message board complain of the same thing.  I called Verizon security in New York to complain about it and they simply said that since I was not a Verizon customer they couldn't do anything. 

I just today got a call from 727-544-0057 in St. Petersburg, also a Verizon number, in which the guy asked me if I had applied for credit in the past six months.  I said no I had not and why was this his business.  He said that's what he was simply trying to find out and hung up.  I called this number back and a lady identified the company as Fidelity Credit and said if I gave her my number she would remove it from their call list.  Since they already had my Bellsouth number, I went ahead and gave that to them although I was calling them on my Skype phone.  I did a search on Google for Fidelity Credit and came up with nothing, so the name is obviously a front for some other activity.

I've done a little telemarketing in my day while in-between real jobs, and this is not how telemarketing operates.  Telemarketing is a numbers game and they don't waste time doing "research."  It's all about pitching and pitching and pitching.  These folks making the phone calls are doing some kind of research or investigation for either law enforcement or criminal purposes. That seems obvious. 

In the context of information that has been revealed recently about NSA spying, I know that I have been the subject of such wiretaps on calls I've made overseas.  I've heard coughs and chairs scooting around and things of that sort when my other party wasn't even on the line.  I've also been tailed locally by strange vehicles (plain Chevrolets and Fords)  and conspicuously observed by goon types while eating lunch with business associates.  The reason for all of this, I'm sure, is that I'm a writer and have been outspoken in support for civil rights and against the Christian Right and George Bush's private little war.  This phone activity is unique in my experience, but I often wonder if someone making a call without any clearly stated purpose or willingness to engage in discussion is simply setting up a computer link to a number through which certain electronic tones become identified by answering the call and can then be tracked when they are associated with some number being specifically observed.  The tones would trigger either recording devices or some other monitoring system.  I found it greatly interesting that my calls overseas were instantaneously monitored but other local calls were often not, but this is probably done simply by entering a country code different from our own.  I suspect that there must be some reason for differentiating between certain types of calls or identifying sources of calls without the necessity of getting phone records from phone companies.

If anyone else believes that their activities may bring them under scrutiny for similar reasons and has been receiving these types of calls, I'd be interested.

As to the issue of getting off call lists, I'd certainly recommend Skype.  It's untraceable and I'm never bothered by harrassing calls through that system. I've been testing it for a couple of months to see how dependable it is, and I'm definitely ready to drop Bellsouth.  You can buy portable wireless phones you can use anywhere in your house and you can take your number on the road with you via your laptop.  I don't use cell phones-- hate the damm things -- and this answers all those types of problems.
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Guest
QUOTE(Sherri @ Jun 3 2006, 04:24 AM)
I'm getting phone calls from this number on my cell phone and everytime I try to call them back, I get a busy signal.  I wonder how they got my number?  And now I have to figure out how to get them to stop calling me.
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You could learn about the Telephone Consumer Protection Act (TCPA), and then sue them for $1,500 per call to your cell phone.
Troy
The company in question is \:

Fidelity Credit Services
8800 49th St
Pinellas Park, FL 33782
(727) 544-0006

The number for the police department in Pinellas Park is:

727-541-0758
Guest
The got my home phone and cell phone from 1st Premier Bank in that most wonderful of havens for scam banks and cc offers, South Dakota.
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